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I am surprised nobody has mentioned the new formation we played yesterday and which was so crucial to getting the best out of Vose, and perhaps Bogle. We played a 'xmas-tree' formation of 4-3-2-1
McKeown Davies Gowling Pearson Andrews Chambers Disley Summerfield Bogle Vose Jackson
Vose certainly doesnt have the willingness and ability to track back, nor the pace to beat defendres, to play wide midfield. But in a slightly withdrawn and, more importantly, tucked in role of a forward 3 he was brilliant. He has the close control and strength to receivethe balll and create a bit of space for himself to play a through ball, or veer inside to get a shot away. He was a revelation in that position and it shows how he has been wasted being asked to play a wide-midfield role he is unsuited to. People on here have said about using him either behind a front 2, or as part of a 3, and yesterday showed why.
It also suited Bogle as it meant he often had a man coming on to him (oo-er) when he received the ball instead of always being tightly marked, i felt, and allowed him to run at defenders a bit more than usual.
I wouldn't have thought that formation would have suited Jackson but he played quite well and set up Bogle for his second.
Please Hursty don't ever go back to playing Vose as a left-midfield again!
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Chambers and Vose were hugging the line for most of the game. Bogle came deeper because that's where Mckeowns kicks ended up.
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Certainly was 4-4-2 and not a Christmas tree formation or anything like!
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vose was level with bogle behind jackson and in front of chambers/disley/summerfield when stevenage had the ball.
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vose was level with bogle behind jackson and in front of chambers/disley/summerfield when stevenage had the ball.
You were at a different game to me then. I commented how well Vose was getting back into a defensive position in the first half especially, something he had been deemed on here to being incapable of.
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It was 442 with Vose wide
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Looked a clear 442 to me too. However players like Vose seem to have a freedom to move inwards, like he did for his goal.
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Started as a 4-4-2 and vose initially looked poor and out the game. He was getting frustrated at not getting on the ball. There was even a moment where Shaun Pearson played s dangerous looking pass and Vose had a pop. Pearson gestured to tell him to run into the channel so he could play it long. You could see the frustration in Vose sttaight away who had a moan, waved his arms and rsn off swearing to himself because he was frustrated at Pearson wanting to play the easy or lazy long ball. You can see there's a footballer in there and we need to play to their strengths (not long ball). This one moment yesterday just made it all the clearer than we need a more technical centre half who is more comfortable on the ball.
Think it was on about 25-30 minutes they pushed vose more centrally and asked Danny Andrew to push up and Diz to sit back to protect the back 4. We were playing a very lopsided formation for the majority. There was a clear moment in the game where Vose looked a different player and it was all about moving him central. Vose centrally clearly works and links up with Bogle better than anyone. Playing as we did yesterday leaves us dangerously exposed down the left though.
Don't think Jackson had his best game yesterday (bar the link up play for Bogle 2nd). I'd much prefer to see Vose playing behind Bogle centrally and having 2 natural wingers with Chambers/Browne/Bolorinwa as think anyone with pace or power in this league will prove to be the difference
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I am surprised nobody has mentioned the new formation we played yesterday and which was so crucial to getting the best out of Vose, and perhaps Bogle. We played a 'xmas-tree' formation of 4-3-2-1
McKeown Davies Gowling Pearson Andrews Chambers Disley Summerfield Bogle Vose Jackson
Vose certainly doesnt have the willingness and ability to track back, nor the pace to beat defendres, to play wide midfield. But in a slightly withdrawn and, more importantly, tucked in role of a forward 3 he was brilliant. He has the close control and strength to receivethe balll and create a bit of space for himself to play a through ball, or veer inside to get a shot away. He was a revelation in that position and it shows how he has been wasted being asked to play a wide-midfield role he is unsuited to. People on here have said about using him either behind a front 2, or as part of a 3, and yesterday showed why.
It also suited Bogle as it meant he often had a man coming on to him (oo-er) when he received the ball instead of always being tightly marked, i felt, and allowed him to run at defenders a bit more than usual.
I wouldn't have thought that formation would have suited Jackson but he played quite well and set up Bogle for his second.
Please Hursty don't ever go back to playing Vose as a left-midfield again!
I think far too much is made of formations. Vose had a confident, eye catching game, keeping wide when needed, cutting in when needed and backtracking when needed. Just like it should be when firing on all cylinders. I didn't particularly notice a new formation, just more mobility from the front players.
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