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In an ideal world I suppose a consultation exercise would be great. Realistically they take some organising (The vote for the share give away to JF was a monster to organise) and decisions have to be made quickly some times so the latter is much more likely. Speaking as someone who has had the honour to work with both of them for over three years now I can safely say that in my opinion, in any voting scenario they would always have the best interests of GTFC at heart.
Is there a difference between the best interests of GTFC and the best interests of the Mariners Trust members who the gentlemen concerned are supposed to represent? I'm not suggesting any impropriety, merely that they recognise their responsibility is to the people they represent.
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Spot on ref Wembley Come on Town!!
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So after 100 votes we are split, with no marginally ahead. I don't think this is a knee jerk reaction, we are getting fed up, only getting 2 points from a club nearly going bust sums it up for me.
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Very good post. Just one small point. The Trust have two GTFC Board members so it follows that we would have two votes in that case.
Even better then! I think it's great we've got some of our own on here who can explain some of the inner delvings of what goes on in the boardroom. Had a very grey and murky feel in years gone by and I'm sure for many fans of other clubs it still is.
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November 1, 2015, 10:20pm |
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Is there a difference between the best interests of GTFC and the best interests of the Mariners Trust members who the gentlemen concerned are supposed to represent?
I'm not suggesting any impropriety, merely that they recognise their responsibility is to the people they represent.
Well I'm glad about that at least! I probably should've known better than to try to reply given your penchant for setting traps Of course the Trust Board members of the Board of GTFC are there to represent the fans-the clue is in the title. However they are the representatives of the fans on a body charged with the furtherment of the fortunes of GTFC You'd better give me a scenario where you think there could be a conflict of interest because for the life of me I cannot think of one.
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November 1, 2015, 10:26pm |
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And the Trust board/important positions are elected by the Trust members are they not?
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November 1, 2015, 10:29pm |
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Well I'm glad about that at least! I probably should've known better than to try to reply given your penchant for setting traps Of course the Trust Board members of the Board of GTFC are there to represent the fans-the clue is in the title. However they are the representatives of the fans on a body charged with the furtherment of the fortunes of GTFC You'd better give me a scenario where you think there could be a conflict of interest because for the life of me I cannot think of one.
FFS - I'm not setting traps, I'm asking a question. The thread title gives a clue - if the board is asked whether or not they support the manager, do they get opportunity to ask the people they represent or not? It's a pretty simple scenario.
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November 1, 2015, 11:04pm |
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It's a tough one from my viewpoint.
Do I believe Hurst will win us the title? No. Do I believe Hurst will get us in the play-offs? Definitely. Do I believe Hurst will win promotion via the play-offs? 50/50 (so I guess you could say I don't necessarily believe he WILL)
If I were Chairman of the Club, or on the board, I would be quietly sounding out a potential manager who would be open to coming in and taking over from Hurst. An experienced manager who could work with the good squad we've got (but for a few loans), get more out of them and bring a winning mentality and tactics to match. If I could find this man quietly behind the scenes, I'd then relieve Hurst of his duties and appoint the new man.
However, as a supporter, I'm not confident that if the board replaced Hurst, they'd appoint the right man. Nor quickly enough. So I'm torn between wanting more from a squad I believe can achieve more than it is doing, and settling for what we've got and hoping we'll be successful in the inevitable play-offs involvement in May.
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November 1, 2015, 11:07pm |
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FFS - I'm not setting traps, I'm asking a question. The thread title gives a clue - if the board is asked whether or not they support the manager, do they get opportunity to ask the people they represent or not? It's a pretty simple scenario.[/quote]
And one I answered
In an ideal world I suppose a consultation exercise would be great. Realistically they take some organising (The vote for the share give away to JF was a monster to organise) and decisions have to be made quickly some times so the latter is much more likely. Speaking as someone who has had the honour to work with both of them for over three years now I can safely say that in my opinion, in any voting scenario they would always have the best interests of GTFC at heart. [quote=1122]
Back to you....
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November 1, 2015, 11:13pm |
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It's a tough one from my viewpoint.
Do I believe Hurst will win us the title? No. Do I believe Hurst will get us in the play-offs? Definitely. Do I believe Hurst will win promotion via the play-offs? 50/50 (so I guess you could say I don't necessarily believe he WILL)
If I were Chairman of the Club, or on the board, I would be quietly sounding out a potential manager who would be open to coming in and taking over from Hurst. An experienced manager who could work with the good squad we've got (but for a few loans), get more out of them and bring a winning mentality and tactics to match. If I could find this man quietly behind the scenes, I'd then relieve Hurst of his duties and appoint the new man.
However, as a supporter, I'm not confident that if the board replaced Hurst, they'd appoint the right man. Nor quickly enough. So I'm torn between wanting more from a squad I believe can achieve more than it is doing, and settling for what we've got and hoping we'll be successful in the inevitable play-offs involvement in May.
Good post and my thoughts are in that same basket. IF the trigger was ever to be pulled some skulldugerous tapping up of a quality replacement to come straight in would be essential
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