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Vance Warner
November 3, 2015, 7:11pm
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Some really good posts on here. I'm quite surprised by the result so far bearing in mind the Hurst Out camp are far more vocal on here. Hopefully both sides can remember how split opinion is and no longer profess to speak on behalf of the majority of fans on this topic.
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9th place.

Says it all really.

Except it doesn't because it's only November. And you don't win the league in November, do you.
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This debate can be encapsulated for me in the Cheltenham game.

We were good in the first half and unlucky not to score.  The "penalty" might have given us a winning lead.  Then this debate would probably have been deferred.

However, we were poor all through the second-half, and the manager did not change it for the better.  Hurst is often risk averse when a bolder approach might pay dividends.

Despite this I am still in favour of Hurst.  He has to take us up this season though. He has had enough chances to do this.

Hurst (and or the Club) can be unlucky in critical games.  Neilson's sending-off at Gateshead, The ref's decision at Wembley v Rovers, and the penalty not given v Cheltenham.  Somebody said "don't give me good generals, give me lucky generals".  

Hurst is not lucky.  Fortune favours the brave and maybe we are not bold enough.

  
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That last bit shows how we've been close... forever 'could have/should have' though  

Everyone says he should have changed it earlier v Cheltenham. In what way I'd like to know as when he did change it it made no difference. Pittman got no service, Marshall was quiet. Sometimes when the whole team having an off day it's really hard to get them to snap out of it. We were constantly pants from set pieces for example which would not help -that's not an excuse one would hope a manager could earn his salt in this situation just saying.

I've heard Hurst say post match a few times 'we started hitting it long...and it wasn't working', like the players just do it of their own accord when out if ideas... How come it's so tricky to nip it in the bud from  the sidelines?
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Quoted from gaz57
I see there's one vote happy with mid table, would that be PH or JF.



When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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That last bit shows how we've been close... forever 'could have/should have' though  

Everyone says he should have changed it earlier v Cheltenham. In what way I'd like to know as when he did change it it made no difference. Pittman got no service, Marshall was quiet. Sometimes when the whole team having an off day it's really hard to get them to snap out of it. We were constantly pants from set pieces for example which would not help -that's not an excuse one would hope a manager could earn his salt in this situation just saying.

I've heard Hurst say post match a few times 'we started hitting it long...and it wasn't working', like the players just do it of their own accord when out if ideas... How come it's so tricky to nip it in the bud from  the sidelines?


Tait off, East to right back. Marshall or Mackreth on the wing and Brown into centre mid as Clay was pants. This should have been done sooner as it was obvious after 15 mins of the second half we were going nowhere. Maybe if we had, then they may not have taken the lead and grown in confidence. Alas, we'll never know.

Also, if we had a fourth striker who offered something different we could have thrown him into the mix but we still don't have one. We have four full backs though.
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Great likeness.
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That last bit shows how we've been close... forever 'could have/should have' though  

Everyone says he should have changed it earlier v Cheltenham. In what way I'd like to know as when he did change it it made no difference. Pittman got no service, Marshall was quiet. Sometimes when the whole team having an off day it's really hard to get them to snap out of it. We were constantly pants from set pieces for example which would not help -that's not an excuse one would hope a manager could earn his salt in this situation just saying.

I've heard Hurst say post match a few times 'we started hitting it long...and it wasn't working', like the players just do it of their own accord when out if ideas... How come it's so tricky to nip it in the bud from  the sidelines?


Its not, requires a loud voice and a rolickin to those that are delivering said balls, with advice such as play it through midfield or out wide now and again pass, pass pass
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Just playing a bit of devils advocate here
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Its not, requires a loud voice and a rolickin to those that are delivering said balls, with advice such as play it through midfield or out wide now and again pass, pass pass



Or maybe if Brown had come on at 0-0 after 60 / 65 minutes he could have given the instructions to teammates not to just hit long and hope the ball would stay away from our end, but to keep hold of it more and actively create something  
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