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Take a look at this: http://www.brentfordcommunitys.....adium-South-Site.pdfI think something like this, even if in a very conceptual format, would be very helpful, especially the sketches of different view from different vantage points. Can the club make some enquiries with Brentford and get a referral to the company who produced it?
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But in the same instance the council can shell out large amounts of money for a botched-up bus hub, a supposedly improved station approach, multi-attempts at up-grading Cleethorpes Leisure Centre and a swimming pool out in the suburbs which is costing far more than up-grading an existing facility which has easier access. The Great Dictator and his cohorts believe that only they are right and anybody with a differing point of view is talking rubbish. It says a lot for the area when " The Marx of The Marsh" can get elected as a councillor!
I totally agree with you about council attitudes. But the money for the harebrained schemes comes from grants, EU or government, not from council tax. The days of councils spending local money on big projects disappeared many year ago. The KC stadium only came about because of the sale of the telephone company plus money from grants as it was a multi-purpose stadium. Hull City was almost wound up just before it opened so the club put nothing in the kitty. Interesting that there was a lot of argument about the site even in a big place like Hull because of the traffic and residential issues. Glanford Park was built on the cheap and the then council did put up some of the cash but that was in the boom years of the 80s. They also got cash from the Football League and various grants. The problem JF faces is simple and it isn't the council and it isn't even the residents. It is money. There isn't the money in the area to justify the originally planned extra development around the stadium. There isn't a big name in the background that thinks it would be a worthwhile investment. That is why the magic word "housing" has suddenly appeared. At the moment the only people making big money are property developers and the hope would be that the council could sweeten someone to stump up cash for a stadium/community facility by allowing them to build a ribbon development estate down the Parkway before leaving town with bulging pockets. Jumping on a new bandwagon now that big retail outlets are out of fashion. I would expect there will be some smaller retail outlets involved though, why else have 2000 parking spaces? I don't pretend to know what the right answer is but it seems most likely to me that eventually permission will come for the Parkway. Then some outside property developer/builder will make a lot of money, a main trunk road will become a traffic horror story, local residents will lose some quality of life, more houses in the central area of town will be bought up for rental as people move out to the new stuff ......... but Town will get a new ground.
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grimsby pete |
November 14, 2014, 6:12pm |
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You will be alright Pete, I will be a young eighty Lol
I really hope we will both be there for the opening Garth, BUT I doubt it, We both might live to be a hundred and we will still be saying we need a new ground.
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November 14, 2014, 6:49pm |
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Bit unfair on the council really, they've managed to attract SKINT to film here bless em.
They should do a tv series about skint football clubs. That would be worth watching
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November 14, 2014, 6:53pm |
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They should do a tv series about skint football clubs. That would be worth watching
Who first!! I think that every club is in debt with "major benefactors"
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promotion plaice |
November 14, 2014, 7:41pm |
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Take a look at this: http://www.brentfordcommunitys.....adium-South-Site.pdfI think something like this, even if in a very conceptual format, would be very helpful, especially the sketches of different view from different vantage points. Can the club make some enquiries with Brentford and get a referral to the company who produced it?
Sorry if i'm missing something but i can't see no stadium, just loads of flats.
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November 14, 2014, 7:43pm |
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But in the same instance the council can shell out large amounts of money for a botched-up bus hub, a supposedly improved station approach, multi-attempts at up-grading Cleethorpes Leisure Centre and a swimming pool out in the suburbs which is costing far more than up-grading an existing facility which has easier access. The Great Dictator and his cohorts believe that only they are right and anybody with a differing point of view is talking rubbish. It says a lot for the area when " The Marx of The Marsh" can get elected as a councillor!
Harsh! He worked very hard to get elected (at a time when UKIP were very much on top) and he has worked very hard for West Marsh since May. I wouldn't argue with your view of Councillor S**w though.
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November 14, 2014, 7:59pm |
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Harsh! He worked very hard to get elected (at a time when UKIP were very much on top) and he has worked very hard for West Marsh since May. I wouldn't argue with your view of Councillor S**w though.
His idea of working hard for his constituents is spending other people's money on his ideas. Mind you, he is not the only councillor to have that disease.
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November 14, 2014, 9:03pm |
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His idea of working hard for his constituents is spending other people's money on his ideas. Mind you, he is not the only councillor to have that disease.
Are we talking Shaw or Mickleburgh here?
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November 14, 2014, 9:20pm |
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Are we talking Shaw or Mickleburgh here?
Both.
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