Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, April 24, 2024, 8:05am
Well seeing as we are safe and the rumours are being splattered around, I thought it was time to start this little one off. The transfer rumour bingo is already away to a great start with Ryan Bennett getting a nice early mention. It can only be a matter of time before Omar B joins him but I’m not even typing his surname just to be safe. Over to you all.
Posted by: crusty ole pie, April 24, 2024, 9:39am; Reply: 1
My rumours an Egyptian and a chap from Maidenhead
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, April 24, 2024, 9:52am; Reply: 2
That deal is off, his mummy wouldn't let him come. Too low in the pyramid.
(and yes, this is a repeat of my gag elsewhere...)
Posted by: AdamHaddock, April 24, 2024, 9:54am; Reply: 3
I propose a two week sin bin for anyone suggesting we bring back ex players (other than recent loanees).
Posted by: Hagrid, April 24, 2024, 10:02am; Reply: 4
Whatever Oly96 Posts on twitter is a load of nonsense, so if you get your rumours from him, they're balderdash!
Posted by: forza ivano, April 24, 2024, 10:22am; Reply: 5
i got in early last season and was pretty hopelessly wrong (as usual), so here's my 5
1) Ryan Bennett; the impediment to the move last season was Doig I'm led to believe. With him long gone I think it's much more likely 2) a youngster from a southern National League club. Hedging my bets here a little, coz I've heard a couple of names. Both names share a common thread..... 3) a foreign signing from Holland or Scandinavia - the fact that Joe was due to go to Amsterdam the other Friday, plus a couple of comments from Artell is my rationale 4) 1 of Artell's ex Crewe players , someone he can rely on and knows what he's getting 5) an ex Lincoln player from Joe's time at Sincil Bank
if I get 2 out of 5 I will be doing better than last year
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, April 24, 2024, 10:31am; Reply: 6
i got in early last season and was pretty hopelessly wrong (as usual), so here's my 5
1) Ryan Bennett; the impediment to the move last season was Doig I'm led to believe. With him long gone I think it's much more likely 2) a youngster from a southern National League club. Hedging my bets here a little, coz I've heard a couple of names. Both names share a common thread..... 3) a foreign signing from Holland or Scandinavia - the fact that Joe was due to go to Amsterdam the other Friday, plus a couple of comments from Artell is my rationale 4) 1 of Artell's ex Crewe players , someone he can rely on and knows what he's getting 5) an ex Lincoln player from Joe's time at Sincil Bank
if I get 2 out of 5 I will be doing better than last year
A brave but very hedged approach there Forza 😉
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 24, 2024, 10:33am; Reply: 7
I'm yet to see Ryan on my dog walks so haven't had a chat with him in a while ;D
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 24, 2024, 11:05am; Reply: 8
Ah, that time again, eh? Comes around quick.
Strap in everyone for a wild ride, 300 pages of puns, arguments, insults, dog walks and who can mention the most ex-players....scattered with the the occasional rumour and odd good shout. It's going to be a great summer.
In all seriousness I'm looking forward to this summer. The disappointment, frustration and worry of this year has passed quite quickly for me. Genuinely intrigued to see what we can do in the window and now we seem to have an entire staff buying into the method how that's going to work.
See you all on the other side of the thread - look after each other ;D
PS - Someone wake Ska up, he needs to get his calculator back out for the form table..
Posted by: mariner91, April 24, 2024, 11:16am; Reply: 9
i got in early last season and was pretty hopelessly wrong (as usual), so here's my 5
1) Ryan Bennett; the impediment to the move last season was Doig I'm led to believe. With him long gone I think it's much more likely 2) a youngster from a southern National League club. Hedging my bets here a little, coz I've heard a couple of names. Both names share a common thread..... 3) a foreign signing from Holland or Scandinavia - the fact that Joe was due to go to Amsterdam the other Friday, plus a couple of comments from Artell is my rationale 4) 1 of Artell's ex Crewe players , someone he can rely on and knows what he's getting 5) an ex Lincoln player from Joe's time at Sincil Bank
if I get 2 out of 5 I will be doing better than last year
I'd add to that a player from Ireland as I believe Joe looked at Ireland quite a lot for up and coming players whilst at Lincoln.
Posted by: ska face, April 24, 2024, 11:35am; Reply: 10
PS - Someone wake Ska up, he needs to get his calculator back out for the form table..
Genuinely struggling to find any enthusiasm for GTFC at the moment, absolute dump season seriously negged me out. That said, I’m sure next week’s released list will invigorate me, can’t wait to see the back of some of these.
This lad’s thread on twitter yesterday was a good read, I know about two of these players. Fair play to anyone with the mental bandwidth capable of building up any meaningful knowledge of lower league players -
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Posted by: Maringer, April 24, 2024, 11:36am; Reply: 11
Strap in everyone for a wild ride, 300 pages of puns, arguments, insults, dog walks and who can mention the most ex-players....scattered with the the occasional rumour and odd good shout. It's going to be a great summer.
I can't wait until we get the rumour about the player accused of doing something unsavoury/illegal but which never quite made it to court. That's always a fun one.
Posted by: Abdul19, April 24, 2024, 11:42am; Reply: 12
I can't wait until we get the rumour about the player accused of doing something unsavoury/illegal but which never quite made it to court. That's always a fun one.
If he signs I'll rip up my season tic card.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, April 24, 2024, 12:01pm; Reply: 13
This lad’s thread on twitter yesterday was a good read, I know about two of these players. Fair play to anyone with the mental bandwidth capable of building up any meaningful knowledge of lower league players -
Tweet 1782779786353381749 will appear here...
Who honestly has the time for this stuff? There’s also the lower league experts on there who seemingly watch all 90’ of the L1 and 2 games before Sunday breakfast time and know how everyones playing.
My predictions are that we’ll sign: 1) Someone with brown hair 2) Someone who has suffered a serious ligament injury in the last two years 3) and someone will be unveiled using a picture of them on a bright sunny day when it’s been raining all day in Cleethorpes.
Potential for a hattrick on one signing meeting all criteria.
Posted by: crusty ole pie, April 24, 2024, 12:22pm; Reply: 17
Who honestly has the time for this stuff? There’s also the lower league experts on there who seemingly watch all 90’ of the L1 and 2 games before Sunday breakfast time and know how everyones playing.
I always wonder who compiles the Beazer Homes League Division 1 short passes in transition stats.
Posted by: Maringer, April 24, 2024, 12:41pm; Reply: 19
I always wonder who compiles the Beazer Homes League Division 1 short passes in transition stats.
There are probably several of them out there. People who like these sort of stats absolutely love these sort of stats and enjoy compiling them. Even if nobody else is interested in them.
Posted by: forza ivano, April 24, 2024, 1:12pm; Reply: 20
Who honestly has the time for this stuff? There’s also the lower league experts on there who seemingly watch all 90’ of the L1 and 2 games before Sunday breakfast time and know how everyones playing. .
There’s a few verified accounts on twitter I don’t want to hear from at all this summer. There’s a handful of people on there who market themselves as lower league experts & do these long scouting-report type threads on players, but I think they talk shíte.
It’s clear now they do it more for engagement rather than having any huge insight - some of them have seemingly never seen a bad player.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 24, 2024, 2:18pm; Reply: 25
There’s a few verified accounts on twitter I don’t want to hear from at all this summer. There’s a handful of people on there who market themselves as lower league experts & do these long scouting-report type threads on players, but I think they talk shíte.
It’s clear now they do it more for engagement rather than having any huge insight - some of them have seemingly never seen a bad player.
One in particular, Tom Williams, that mentions Nathan Rooney as a potential manager for every single managerial vacancy going - starting to think he's his agent or has shares in him!
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 24, 2024, 2:19pm; Reply: 26
Genuinely struggling to find any enthusiasm for GTFC at the moment, absolute dump season seriously negged me out. That said, I’m sure next week’s released list will invigorate me, can’t wait to see the back of some of these.
Ah it'll pass mate - we'll all be aboard HMS urine the league by July...
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 24, 2024, 2:21pm; Reply: 27
One in particular, Tom Williams, that mentions Nathan Rooney as a potential manager for every single managerial vacancy going - starting to think he's his agent or has shares in him!
Same with that HC and Conteh, even when Conteh was playing poorly he'd bring out some stats to try and justify that Conteh was playing well and that it was everyone elses fault... ;D
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 24, 2024, 2:23pm; Reply: 28
Same with that HC and Conteh, even when Conteh was playing poorly he'd bring out some stats to try and justify that Conteh was playing well and that it was everyone elses fault... ;D
I'm pretty sure HC actually works for the agency that Conteh belongs too. I thought it was weird then someone mentioned it and it made sense.
Posted by: ska face, April 24, 2024, 2:37pm; Reply: 29
One in particular, Tom Williams, that mentions Nathan Rooney as a potential manager for every single managerial vacancy going - starting to think he's his agent or has shares in him!
Yeah that’s the one that springs to mind. Obviously you only pay attention to what he says about your club, but during the season I realised he would just do it endlessly about every club, every player, every manager.
Initially I thought “wow, this guy knows his onions!” and then having watched all these players he rated so highly for us, by Christmas is was more “wow, this guy talks shít!”
Obviously knows a lot more than me, mind.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 24, 2024, 2:40pm; Reply: 30
I'm pretty sure HC actually works for the agency that Conteh belongs too. I thought it was weird then someone mentioned it and it made sense.
Ah that makes sense, Gab is the only one that I really pay any attention to.. he's very good at what he does and I enjoy his content.
Posted by: SheepGTFC, April 24, 2024, 2:47pm; Reply: 31
Think based on what Stockwood and Artell have said in recent interview, this summer I believe majority will come at the chairpersons behest and will be chosen heavily based on data. Interested to see how it works.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 24, 2024, 2:59pm; Reply: 32
Think based on what Stockwood and Artell have said in recent interview, this summer I believe majority will come at the chairpersons behest and will be chosen heavily based on data. Interested to see how it works.
I don't think that's true at all, there's zero chance Jason or anyone else gets involved in the selecting players part of the recruitment process - other than perhaps providing the finances or talking to players, agents on the clubs behalf as might happen from time to time to get a deal done.
Everything they've said since they've been here is they leave the football to the experts. They've set the course of the type of football club we want to be going forward and given the resources to the manager to do that job, that's what he and others will be judged against.
Posted by: Barrattstander, April 24, 2024, 3:47pm; Reply: 33
In Andrew Pettit's programme notes for the Newport County game there was a big clue about where we are looking.
" We will also be seeking to take advantage of the recent relaxation in the rules about signing overseas players which allows clubs at our level to sign two foreign players without the historic requirements of them being at 'elite'/international level. Town has secured its licence from the Home Office to facilitate this option and some exciting targets are already on the radar."
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 24, 2024, 4:09pm; Reply: 34
DC from DC not completed yet though
Posted by: Hagrid, April 24, 2024, 4:12pm; Reply: 35
Yeah that’s the one that springs to mind. Obviously you only pay attention to what he says about your club, but during the season I realised he would just do it endlessly about every club, every player, every manager.
Initially I thought “wow, this guy knows his onions!” and then having watched all these players he rated so highly for us, by Christmas is was more “wow, this guy talks shít!”
Obviously knows a lot more than me, mind.
Every single signing for any club
" WOW WHAT A SIGNING"
Posted by: Lost in Lincoln, April 24, 2024, 4:13pm; Reply: 36
I'm pretty sure HC actually works for the agency that Conteh belongs too. I thought it was weird then someone mentioned it and it made sense.
He's definitely got something to do with it.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, April 24, 2024, 4:55pm; Reply: 37
Cracking start, gentlemen and ladies. 36 posts in little over 8 hours.
That's 108 posts per day, and with 101 or 108 days until the new season starts (depending on if its 3rd or 10th August) we can expect well in excess of TEN THOUSAND posts on this thread.
Keep it up. We have an unbelievable reputation to uphold!
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, April 24, 2024, 5:21pm; Reply: 38
Cracking start, gentlemen and ladies. 36 posts in little over 8 hours.
That's 108 posts per day, and with 101 or 108 days until the new season starts (depending on if its 3rd or 10th August) we can expect well in excess of TEN THOUSAND posts on this thread.
Keep it up. We have an unbelievable reputation to uphold!
And the retained list is still a few days off yet.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 24, 2024, 5:43pm; Reply: 39
Cracking start, gentlemen and ladies. 36 posts in little over 8 hours.
That's 108 posts per day, and with 101 or 108 days until the new season starts (depending on if its 3rd or 10th August) we can expect well in excess of TEN THOUSAND posts on this thread.
Keep it up. We have an unbelievable reputation to uphold!
Come on now. We can’t make it easy for people. Unless you’re here every step of the way, come rain or shine, through the dog walking stories, hotel bookings, god awful puns, random stories and general shitness for 300 pages then, quite frankly, you don’t deserve to know about who’s signing…
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 24, 2024, 6:05pm; Reply: 40
Come on now. We can’t make it easy for people. Unless you’re here every step of the way, come rain or shine, through the dog walking stories, hotel bookings, god awful puns, random stories and general shitness for 300 pages then, quite frankly, you don’t deserve to know about who’s signing…
Is General Shitness one of the foreign signings?
Posted by: grimsby pete, April 24, 2024, 6:38pm; Reply: 42
I think Artell has out thought Stockwood by saying he will sign players that the data and Jason says they are the ones to sign.
Then when they don't work out and people are calling for David's head.
He will turn round and say to Jason '' don't blame me it was you who said sign him ' ;D
I hope some of our juniors get a chance to show is what they can do and not bring other clubs juniors in on loan.
Got a feeling we will sign a Dane. and a Norway player on free transfers.
Ryan Bennett can still do a job for us so I will welcome him.
Anybody else will be a cut above the players we have signed recently and we will have the paperwork to show it. ;)
Posted by: pontoonlew, April 24, 2024, 6:55pm; Reply: 43
I don’t think the board will dictate who we sign, but I do think they’ll dictate how we do it.
It must’ve been frustrating from their end getting stick all season for what Hurst assembled when he clearly went against what they asked for. Same with Joe Hutchinson, he’s had pelters on here for his role in this seasons recruits but it’s become more & more obvious he was just ignored.
Artell will obviously make the final call, but they’ll all be keen to ensure they’re not accountable for somebody else’s judgement again.
Posted by: forza ivano, April 24, 2024, 7:26pm; Reply: 44
Posted by: Roast Em Bobby, April 24, 2024, 7:33pm; Reply: 45
I was suprised to see Tshimanga finished the season on loan at borehamwood - wonder whether peterborough might be willing to let him go for a relatively small fee?
Posted by: mariner91, April 24, 2024, 8:01pm; Reply: 46
I was suprised to see Tshimanga finished the season on loan at borehamwood - wonder whether peterborough might be willing to let him go for a relatively small fee?
The 27 year old without a single football league goal to his name? Why on earth would we pay a fee for him?
Posted by: crusty ole pie, April 24, 2024, 8:02pm; Reply: 47
I was suprised to see Tshimanga finished the season on loan at borehamwood - wonder whether peterborough might be willing to let him go for a relatively small fee?
Never been the player he was
Posted by: WesternMariner, April 24, 2024, 8:17pm; Reply: 48
Posted by: gytone, April 24, 2024, 8:49pm; Reply: 49
I know we bang on about ex-players, but the only one I would welcome back would be Ryan Bennett, but he's 34 now, does anyone know how he did at Cambridge?
Posted by: MuddyWaters, April 24, 2024, 8:53pm; Reply: 50
I know we bang on about ex-players, but the only one I would welcome back would be Ryan Bennett, but he's 34 now, does anyone know how he did at Cambridge?
As they’re still not certain of their League One future, probably not great.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 24, 2024, 9:05pm; Reply: 51
I know we bang on about ex-players, but the only one I would welcome back would be Ryan Bennett, but he's 34 now, does anyone know how he did at Cambridge?
Not for me - look to the future, not the past. What would we get out of Ryan? 1 season, maybe 2? We need somebody for at least 3+ seasons so we can build a solid defence and platform around them.
Posted by: Roast Em Bobby, April 25, 2024, 7:40am; Reply: 56
The 27 year old without a single football league goal to his name? Why on earth would we pay a fee for him?
Seems a harsh way of looking at it. League One obviously a step too far for him, but has a great track record in non-league (even this season for a team that got relegated) and has never played at League Two level.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, April 25, 2024, 7:41am; Reply: 57
Ryan Bennett would bring stability and calm to the defence for a couple of Seasons. In recent times we saw this with Danny Collins if we can get him then get him he's a huge upgrade on the other CBs.
Posted by: mariner91, April 25, 2024, 8:29am; Reply: 58
Seems a harsh way of looking at it. League One obviously a step too far for him, but has a great track record in non-league (even this season for a team that got relegated) and has never played at League Two level.
He's had three good goal scoring seasons in the NL, the most recent of which was three seasons ago. His goalscoring has not been anywhere near as prolific since his injury whilst at Chesterfield and was generally thought of as being abysmal by Posh fans because even before when he was scoring, he didn't do anything else during a game. His record in the FL makes Pyke look prolific. I'd be disappointed if we signed him, let alone paying a fee.
Posted by: louth_in_the_south, April 25, 2024, 9:16am; Reply: 59
Not for me - look to the future, not the past. What would we get out of Ryan? 1 season, maybe 2? We need somebody for at least 3+ seasons so we can build a solid defence and platform around them.
How many players are likely to be at a club for 3 years ? If they’re young and any good they’ll be gone . If we can sign a player of RB pedigree for a year or two it’s a no brainer .
Posted by: Roast Em Bobby, April 25, 2024, 9:29am; Reply: 60
He's had three good goal scoring seasons in the NL, the most recent of which was three seasons ago. His goalscoring has not been anywhere near as prolific since his injury whilst at Chesterfield and was generally thought of as being abysmal by Posh fans because even before when he was scoring, he didn't do anything else during a game. His record in the FL makes Pyke look prolific. I'd be disappointed if we signed him, let alone paying a fee.
Fair enough, all about opinions. Personally, I think 7 in 16 games this season for a team that was relegated is a decent ratio, and as I mentioned all his FL games were in L1 not L2 so judging on that seems a bit harsh to me.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 25, 2024, 9:29am; Reply: 61
The Ryan Bennett argument is a no brainer. Played at a much higher level for a large part of his career and has the class to still be very very good at this level. I get its the old 'ex-player' stuff. However take that out of it and I think we'd all be very for it and the only reason we're talking about it is it's nearly happened twice, apparently.
His calmness, ability and leadership would have been invaluable this season and would be next.
Posted by: forza ivano, April 25, 2024, 9:46am; Reply: 62
The Ryan Bennett argument is a no brainer. Played at a much higher level for a large part of his career and has the class to still be very very good at this level. I get its the old 'ex-player' stuff. However take that out of it and I think we'd all be very for it and the only reason we're talking about it is it's nearly happened twice, apparently.
His calmness, ability and leadership would have been invaluable this season and would be next.
agree totally
would continue another trend I hope to see continued - the recruitment of players with local or regional links . It must make life so much easier , as they're already settled, or have roots in the locality/region.
Posted by: Heisenberg, April 25, 2024, 9:54am; Reply: 63
How many players are likely to be at a club for 3 years ? If they’re young and any good they’ll be gone . If we can sign a player of RB pedigree for a year or two it’s a no brainer .
Beat me to it, almost word-for-word what I was going to say.
I sometimes think people who play Football Manager and take a L2 club to the Prem think it’s actually really possible! If you have a young player who’s good enough, they’re gone, end of story. If you’re in L2 and you have a chance to sign a former Prem player who’s past his best but still far too good for this level, you sign them. It’s short term-isn because that’s life down here.
The big EPL clubs build for the future by buying young talent. If we had an average age of 28-29 in L2, I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit worried.
Posted by: DB, April 25, 2024, 9:54am; Reply: 64
I'd like Ryan Bennett back for 2/3 seasons. He has the experience to hold the back 3/4 together and smoother opposition attacks.
Yes, we need youth as well but need an experienced head when all's not well.
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 25, 2024, 10:01am; Reply: 65
My only issue with Bennett would be that it wouldn't address the attribute we lack a bit at the back, pace.
Mullarkey, Rodgers and Tharme are all under contract and in the case of Rodgers and Tharme have 2 years left on their deals. I don't really think any of them will be leaving. Neither are blessed with pace. Bennett's a fine player and would bring plenty to our defence, but pace wouldn't be one of those attributes. I think it would have to a case of Bennett in for one of those of three and then AN Other coming in to bring some pace.
Our quickest defender is the one who's out of contract, Maher.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 25, 2024, 10:06am; Reply: 66
My only issue with Bennett would be that it wouldn't address the attribute we lack a bit at the back, pace.
Mullarkey, Rodgers and Tharme are all under contract and in the case of Rodgers and Tharme have 2 years left on their deals. I don't really think any of them will be leaving. Neither are blessed with pace. Bennett's a fine player but he wouldn't bring pace to the defence.
Our quickest defender is the one who's out of contract, Maher.
I've seen a few comments about Tharme being slow, I actually think he covers ground really quickly. I think the pace at centre half has been made to look a bigger problem than it is because we've had no pace at full back for a while. Glennon moved like he's stuck in mud and Hume isn't much better and then like you said Mullarkey isn't blessed with extreme pace, especially made to look worse when he was playing against a quick winger but reads the game very well at centre half so doesn't really get caught out. I think pace is something we lack throughout the whole squad.
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 25, 2024, 10:14am; Reply: 67
Yeah I don't think any of them are slow, just average. Which is the point across the squad isn't it? No real tortoises but no actual pace either. I don't think he was rapid but Efete was probably our quickest player. Good point down the left side, can add Amos to that issue too. It badly exposed us too often last season.
Be it defence, midfield or attack, it's something we really lack and I'm certain Artell will be looking at. Lost count of the times this season when we had the opportunity to hit sides on the counter but teams easily recover because we've no one to stretch away from them. Crying out for a Max Wright against Wrexham type break.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, April 25, 2024, 10:18am; Reply: 68
The Ryan Bennett argument is a no brainer. Played at a much higher level for a large part of his career and has the class to still be very very good at this level. I get its the old 'ex-player' stuff. However take that out of it and I think we'd all be very for it and the only reason we're talking about it is it's nearly happened twice, apparently.
His calmness, ability and leadership would have been invaluable this season and would be next.
This is why we could/should consider Ryan if the deal comes up - we constantly bemoan the lack of leadership on the pitch. Ryan would organise the defence, instil confidence into other players and be perfectly happy to hand out a b*llocking to anyone who needed it. And do his own job perfectly well.
And we'd be behind him 100%
Say it quietly...the new Paul Futcher.....
Posted by: bawarmy, April 25, 2024, 10:20am; Reply: 69
The only thing certain is, this thread will get 200 pages
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 25, 2024, 10:20am; Reply: 70
Yeah I don't think any of them are slow, just average. Which is the point across the squad isn't it? No real tortoises but no actual pace either. I don't think he was rapid but Efete was probably our quickest player. Good point down the left side, can add Amos to that issue too. It badly exposed us too often last season.
Be it defence, midfield or attack, it's something we really lack and I'm certain Artell will be looking at. Lost count of the times this season when we had the opportunity to hit sides on the counter but teams easily recover because we've no one to stretch away from them. Crying out for a Max Wright against Wrexham type break.
Aye and to back that point up, the amount of times we've had a corner and they break away and score... personal favourite is Green chasing Andy Cannon back against Wrexham and falling over his own feet ;D
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, April 25, 2024, 10:21am; Reply: 71
And another thing...
The spine of next season's team would look like:
Bennett Tharme
Thompson
Rose
That's not a bad start.
Posted by: Poojah, April 25, 2024, 10:26am; Reply: 72
My only issue with Bennett would be that it wouldn't address the attribute we lack a bit at the back, pace.
I was starting to write a post as to why signing Bennett would be a terrible idea, but by the end of it had just about talked myself into it. If we’re going to revert to playing out from the back next season, Bennett should at least be capable of that given the level he’s played out, and has been a mainstay of a side that has avoided relegation from a tough League One.
But you hit the nail on the head; we are absolutely crying out for some athleticism at centre-half. I’m absolutely not suggesting Toto, but someone of that ilk is an absolute must. If it’s a case of being a choice between a 34 year-old Ryan Bennett and someone big and quick (who can still play a bit), then I think the gaps in the team at present dictate the latter as the better option, but if both are a possibility, then that might be a nice bit of business.
I assume we’re all in agreement that Maher is done.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, April 25, 2024, 10:39am; Reply: 73
I was starting to write a post as to why signing Bennett would be a terrible idea, but by the end of it had just about talked myself into it. If we’re going to revert to playing out from the back next season, Bennett should at least be capable of that given the level he’s played out, and has been a mainstay of a side that has avoided relegation from a tough League One.
But you hit the nail on the head; we are absolutely crying out for some athleticism at centre-half. I’m absolutely not suggesting Toto, but someone of that ilk is an absolute must. If it’s a case of being a choice between a 34 year-old Ryan Bennett and someone big and quick (who can still play a bit), then I think the gaps in the team at present dictate the latter as the better option, but if both are a possibility, then that might be a nice bit of business.
I assume we’re all in agreement that Maher is done.
I think we can 'afford' both (Bennett and a quicker player). I am not generally happy about bringing back old players but Ryan is an exception for me - leader, calm influence, bloody good player.
His lack of pace was not an issue for Cambridge this season and last.
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 25, 2024, 10:41am; Reply: 74
Aye and to back that point up, the amount of times we've had a corner and they break away and score... personal favourite is Green chasing Andy Cannon back against Wrexham and falling over his own feet ;D
Almost as good as this from Rochdale's Warren Goodhind trying to stop Michael Reddy (About 1:10 in)
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Posted by: diehardmariner, April 25, 2024, 10:45am; Reply: 75
I think we can 'afford' both (Bennett and a quicker player). I am not generally happy about bringing back old players but Ryan is an exception for me - leader, calm influence, bloody good player.
His lack of pace was not an issue for Cambridge this season and last.
I've no intel or insight but would be surprised if we can afford both without someone going out. Body for body Maher could be replaced by Bennett. But an extra central defender would put us at 5 plus young Bramwell. I think 5 or 6 is a decent number, especially if you're playing 3 at the back, but all of those will be on a decent whack.
Who was Bennett paired with at Cambridge, or rather are they quicker players?
On Poojah's point regards Maher, I agree. It's a shame as I think he's a good player and if I had to choose between him and Rodgers, he wins every time. But we need to mix things up in there and he's the easy/available option to do so.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 25, 2024, 10:59am; Reply: 76
I assume we’re all in agreement that Maher is done.
Yep, in different circumstances you'd be able to make an argument for keeping. However, we have Tharme and Rodgers under contract - we cannot go into next season with 3 of the centre-halves that have lead us to 20th in L2. Would only leave room for one more and I'd argue we need minimum two, possibly three but Rodgers contract length will get him another shot, hopefully we see abit of the Rob Jones second season effect.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 25, 2024, 11:00am; Reply: 77
The only thing certain is, this thread will get 200 pages
Before the 1st signing
Posted by: gytone, April 25, 2024, 12:08pm; Reply: 80
I get the notion that we need someone with pace, but having pace never bothered Futcher. I also think the Bennett signing would put a few on season ticket sales.
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 25, 2024, 2:01pm; Reply: 81
Futcher played with better players as Town team-mates than anyone we could hope to pair Bennett with next season.
Futcher was also a far better player than Bennett. I'd argue that pace has become more important in the last 30 years too.
Don't get me wrong, I think Bennett would be a very good addition. I just don't think he should be the primary focus for strengthening the defence this summer. If we can get him and someone quick and strong, I like the Toto comparison earlier, then happy days all round.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, April 25, 2024, 2:25pm; Reply: 82
With regards all these suggestions of ex-GTFC players returning, what we have to remember is that in previous seasons we all got to know the type of player that Hurst would sign/re-sign so could quite easily pre-empt the final result.
But now we have the mysterious Big Dave, who is 'only' the Head Coach, and Big Joe Hutchinson with his laptop of wizardry on the hunt for new players. We dont have a 'scooby' about the type of players either of them are searching for, and the January acquisitions proved that completely.
Personally, I very much doubt one of the options on Joe's Excel sheet, is where individual players are living/based, and certainly won't have extra points added if they have played for Town before.
Just like January, I think most of our new signings will receive plenty of 'ooooohs' and a regular smattering of 'aaaaahs' when they are announced.
Posted by: RonMariner, April 25, 2024, 3:14pm; Reply: 83
One ex player I would like to see back is Ben Fox. I am sure we could afford him because I had a chat with one of the staff at Northampton last year and he assured me that the rumours about a £4k+ per week salary were nonsense. Most players at that time were on £2.5 to £3k a week and he was not one of the bigger earners.
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 25, 2024, 3:20pm; Reply: 84
I really liked Fox and he's as close to a complete midfielder we've had since the Disley days. Someone who can do a bit of everything effectively.
But he's been unavailable for Northampton more than he has been available in his two years there. Even removing the inflated additional money that fans will have put on his weekly wage, he would be one of the top earners. We would need more than 20 games a season from that.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, April 25, 2024, 3:23pm; Reply: 85
One ex player I would like to see back is Ben Fox. I am sure we could afford him because I had a chat with one of the staff at Northampton last year and he assured me that the rumours about a £4k+ per week salary were nonsense. Most players at that time were on £2.5 to £3k a week and he was not one of the bigger earners.
Fox did a great job for us but..
He came to us with a reputation for injuries and we were almost the last chance saloon for him. At Northampton he has played well but has missed a lot of football because of injury (he has played 41 games in 2 seasons). I think we got lucky with him and playing a level below our current level was very good for him.
Posted by: Jammin242, April 25, 2024, 4:02pm; Reply: 86
Id Take Foxy back in a heart beat!
He massively capable of the Artell Ball and style. Keeping him fit would be the only issue.
But again the signings of the likes of Ben Fox or Ryan Bennett no longer fits the clubs transfer philosophy! Young, Ruff, Raw players they can gamble on and turn for a profit! we will end up with more Conteh-esk players. Where they use Town as a platform to spring back up the leagues and we make a quick buck or two!
Posted by: mariner91, April 25, 2024, 4:03pm; Reply: 87
He massively capable of the Artell Ball and style. Keeping him fit would be the only issue.
But again the signings of the likes of Ben Fox or Ryan Bennett no longer fits the clubs transfer philosophy! Young, Ruff, Raw players they can gamble on and turn for a profit! we will end up with more Conteh-esk players. Where they use Town as a platform to spring back up the leagues and we make a quick buck or two!
Like the young, inexperienced central midfielder we signed in January?
Posted by: Jammin242, April 25, 2024, 4:11pm; Reply: 88
The Ryan Bennett argument is a no brainer. Played at a much higher level for a large part of his career and has the class to still be very very good at this level. I get its the old 'ex-player' stuff. However take that out of it and I think we'd all be very for it and the only reason we're talking about it is it's nearly happened twice, apparently.
His calmness, ability and leadership would have been invaluable this season and would be next.
Who was the centre back that Slade brought back in his last spell at the expense of Pearson ? He was ex Premiersh*t with years of experience and was awful. It's all about opinions but I'm sure we can find a longer term and better option than Ryan Bennett.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 25, 2024, 4:16pm; Reply: 90
The strategy isn't just to solely bring in those young players to develop and move on, however it will include that. We signed 30 year old Thompson and 28 year old Liam Smith this January.
Posted by: Mappers, April 25, 2024, 4:17pm; Reply: 91
Charlie Kirk could be here I think
Posted by: Abdul19, April 25, 2024, 4:30pm; Reply: 92
Who was the centre back that Slade brought back in his last spell at the expense of Pearson ? He was ex Premiersh*t with years of experience and was awful. It's all about opinions but I'm sure we can find a longer term and better option than Ryan Bennett.
Nathan Clarke but not sure he went above League 1.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, April 25, 2024, 4:35pm; Reply: 93
Who was the centre back that Slade brought back in his last spell at the expense of Pearson ? He was ex Premiersh*t with years of experience and was awful. It's all about opinions but I'm sure we can find a longer term and better option than Ryan Bennett.
Clarke, ex- Coventry but he did score v Notts County to help keep us up!
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 25, 2024, 5:04pm; Reply: 94
I've seen a few comments about Tharme being slow, I actually think he covers ground really quickly. I think the pace at centre half has been made to look a bigger problem than it is because we've had no pace at full back for a while. Glennon moved like he's stuck in mud and Hume isn't much better and then like you said Mullarkey isn't blessed with extreme pace, especially made to look worse when he was playing against a quick winger but reads the game very well at centre half so doesn't really get caught out. I think pace is something we lack throughout the whole squad.
Sorry mate. Disagree completely about Hume's pace. E.g. He was absolutely flying down the wing in his debut at Accrington. His team-mates didn't take proper advantage of his terrific runs, but he had probably trained with them only once at that time.
Point is, the lad can run...and fast.
Posted by: forza ivano, April 25, 2024, 8:30pm; Reply: 96
With regards all these suggestions of ex-GTFC players returning, what we have to remember is that in previous seasons we all got to know the type of player that Hurst would sign/re-sign so could quite easily pre-empt the final result.
But now we have the mysterious Big Dave, who is 'only' the Head Coach, and Big Joe Hutchinson with his laptop of wizardry on the hunt for new players. We dont have a 'scooby' about the type of players either of them are searching for, and the January acquisitions proved that completely.
Personally, I very much doubt one of the options on Joe's Excel sheet, is where individual players are living/based, and certainly won't have extra points added if they have played for Town before.
Just like January, I think most of our new signings will receive plenty of 'ooooohs' and a regular smattering of 'aaaaahs' when they are announced.
Personally I think you're wrong on this. I think most of us know that our location is a negative. You try to recruit regionally and suddenly it becomes a positive. Look at Wilson, Orsi & Crocombe. A major reason for all of them leaving was the desire to be closer to home. Now, if home is the East Midlands or Ull/Goole/Scunny etc, then our location becomes a positive.
I know , given the shiite season we have, that this season's squad isn't a great model, but we had Eastwood, Cartwright, Maher, Waterfall, Rodgers, Amos (?) ,Green, Clifton, Khouri, Bramwell, Gradener, Thompson, Hunt,Vernham,Holohan, Rose & Eisa all in that category.
I will bet you a penny to a pound that locality/origin is 1 of the filters in Joe's search engine
Posted by: ginnywings, April 25, 2024, 8:31pm; Reply: 97
There are literally thousands of footballers out there looking for a chance to show what they can do, and yet every transfer thread throws up a yearning for ex players.
When the summer recruitment started, most of the players we were linked with or signed were known or recognisable names, which is a theme of Hurst. He does like to sign players he has worked with before, and look how that turned out.
In Jan, I knew nothing of the players we brought in, and they have all been an improvement to varying degrees.
I hope the summer signings are the same type who have me asking myself "who"? and heading to google to find out. Would make an exception for Ryan Bennett as he is locally based and 34 is not old for modern professional footballers who have better training and diet regimes than footballers of old. Think most League 2 clubs would be interested in him, but we have the advantage of him living locally, and maybe he fancies not having to travel a distance to training 3 times a week.
I'll do what I always do, which is to sit back patiently and wait for the actual signings to be announced in due course.
Had a gutful of footy this season, and will be glad of the break for a few weeks.
Posted by: GollyGTFC, April 26, 2024, 6:45am; Reply: 98
He came to us with a reputation for injuries and we were almost the last chance saloon for him. At Northampton he has played well but has missed a lot of football because of injury (he has played 41 games in 2 seasons). I think we got lucky with him and playing a level below our current level was very good for him.
Fox only started 22 out of our 44 regular season NL matches for us.
Posted by: Mappers, April 26, 2024, 8:55am; Reply: 99
Fox only started 22 out of our 44 regular season NL matches for us.
He was just fit at the right time wasn't he thankfully . I imagine when he left the Matches played V ££££ just couldn't justify it , it's probably proven the right decision based on the amount of games he's played for Northampton ; pretty sure he got another 'big' injury there aswell and was out for ages . Very good player but probably only good for 20 games a season at most .
Posted by: Hagrid, April 26, 2024, 9:50am; Reply: 100
Fox only started 22 out of our 44 regular season NL matches for us.
Didnt realise it was that few!
Remember him coming on against Notts I think? Him and Raikhy ran the midfield and we won 2-1, it set us on a winning run, and in the Play offs themselves, he was absolutely incredible
Posted by: devs, April 26, 2024, 4:40pm; Reply: 101
I've added Bennett and Ben Fox to my transfers' bingo card' Just need Omar now for four corners...
Remember him coming on against Notts I think? Him and Raikhy ran the midfield and we won 2-1, it set us on a winning run, and in the Play offs themselves, he was absolutely incredible
If that surprises you...
The 22 matches Fox started...
W 10 D 1 L 11 F 27 A 23 GD +4 Pts 31 PPG 1.35
The 22 matches Fox didn't start...
W 13 D 7 L 2 F 41 A 23 GD +18 Pts 46 PPG 2.09
Posted by: neverapen, April 26, 2024, 7:04pm; Reply: 105
Someone has posted on twitter a screenshot of an instagram post made by Gav Holahan’s girlfriend which says his time is done at Town. Not particularly surprised but thought announcements would come post Crawley…
Posted by: davmariner, April 26, 2024, 7:06pm; Reply: 106
He’s been a brilliant player for us and wish him all the best.
Posted by: neverapen, April 26, 2024, 7:09pm; Reply: 107
Agreed, he’s been right in the middle of some of the best memories from the last couple of seasons, and a decent bloke too.
Posted by: ska face, April 26, 2024, 7:37pm; Reply: 108
Someone has posted on twitter a screenshot of an instagram post made by Gav Holahan’s girlfriend which says his time is done at Town. Not particularly surprised but thought announcements would come post Crawley…
The announcements probably will do - no idea why some oddballs think they should be trawling the private accounts of players’ partners. Bizarre behaviour.
Posted by: Heisenberg, April 26, 2024, 7:58pm; Reply: 109
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 27, 2024, 8:39am; Reply: 110
Clifton and green offered new terms
Posted by: neverapen, April 27, 2024, 9:51am; Reply: 111
Have you heard that on the grapevine or is it purely speculation?
Either way don’t think I’m surprised. Green in particular has always seemed in favour with DA, and think there probably has been improvement in his game over the last few matches. Would be interesting to see if there is any more room for improvement with him because you can’t knock the blokes work rate.
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 27, 2024, 10:06am; Reply: 112
Have you heard that on the grapevine or is it purely speculation?
Either way don’t think I’m surprised. Green in particular has always seemed in favour with DA, and think there probably has been improvement in his game over the last few matches. Would be interesting to see if there is any more room for improvement with him because you can’t knock the blokes work rate.
Despite what people might say about me on here, you can take it as fact. Also speaking to Hume. The rest out of contract are leaving.
Posted by: Davec, April 27, 2024, 10:18am; Reply: 113
Despite what people might say about me on here, you can take it as fact. Also speaking to Hume. The rest out of contract are leaving.
Ainley leaving then? I would have assumed he may have been offered a contract with Artell knowing him well from Crewe and also he spoke highly of him in interviews
Posted by: forza ivano, April 27, 2024, 10:22am; Reply: 114
Despite what people might say about me on here, you can take it as fact. Also speaking to Hume. The rest out of contract are leaving.
that rather contradicts what several others have said; they say that ainley deal is more or less done and dusted
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 27, 2024, 10:36am; Reply: 116
To be fair I never asked about ainley so that could be the case. Looking at how the club did the right thing by scannell it wouldn’t surprise me at all plus he’s certainly the type of player we’ve been crying out for. So yeah I may have overlooked ainley when I said all others leaving but I don’t know either way.
Posted by: neverapen, April 27, 2024, 11:00am; Reply: 117
Alan - any insight into whether any contracts are going to be cancelled or under contract players leaving?
There’s a couple that have been told they are free to find a new club, but the club won’t be paying them up certainly not yet anyway and they aren’t hopeful they’ll get many takers 😂
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 27, 2024, 11:32am; Reply: 121
Cant say Im over enthused about either of them. Dont think Green is a League 2 player at all
Absolutely agree regarding Clifton he’s very poor ( I’d imagine his versatility is the reason to be offered terms to save money in the squad)! But with green I think as a squad player there is an argument that he’s a good option to have for horses for courses scenarios ! Although I’d hope he’s not a starting regular come August!
Posted by: HertsGTFC, April 27, 2024, 11:48am; Reply: 122
Green & Clifton are squad players for me if we want to do better next next season. Haven’t seen enough of Ainley to have an opinion but he did make an impact when he came on last week for sure.
Posted by: forza ivano, April 27, 2024, 11:53am; Reply: 123
Cant say Im over enthused about either of them. Dont think Green is a League 2 player at all
6 months ago I'd have wholeheartedly agreed with you. I was amongst his biggest critics; the man with toblerone shaped feet and head was my description, whose passing ability made Harry look like De Bruyne.
BUT he has come on leaps and bounds under Artell; at Gillingham i had to keep double checking that it was actually Green that I was watching! If it's true about the contract then that is going to be of the interesting things to watch next season, can he sustain this improvement or can he go further still
Posted by: Chrisblor, April 27, 2024, 1:42pm; Reply: 124
Green was excellent at Crewe away too, i'm fine with keeping him for depth and as an option to shore up the midfield toward the end of games.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, April 27, 2024, 1:59pm; Reply: 125
Regardless of what style we intend to play next season, we need a couple of players like Green to help us see out a game or allow others to play.
Posted by: acko338, April 27, 2024, 2:05pm; Reply: 126
My question would be can both Clifton and Green improve with hopefully better players around them next season?
Harry seems to have lost his shooting boots in recent months.
Green has shown that he can be a valuable player if he can stay fit and get the tackles in to harden the midfield.
I'm not saying that both will be star players next season, but both have the ability to improve to compete for team places.
They both have the energy needed, now we need to see more skill to match the energy.
Callum Ainley has briefly shown that there is a footballing brain and good passing ability, and if he can be fully fit again, he could be a bargain signing for next season.
For me, a signing for the No 10 position will be a vital requirement to make the midfield and front line much more mobile than this season.
Artell has now had sufficient time to know where the weaknesses are, and hopefully will be talking to Hutchinson to remedy the situation without having to resort to injury prone signings.
I still hope that they can uncover another Conteh type find for next season.
Glennon as a left back in current form looks to be out of the door, but could he have been any better playing as an attacking left sided midfielder?
Weak in defence, but always looked good going forward and his dead ball deliveries have been missed at set pieces. Worth a pre-season trial in that position?
Posted by: buckstown, April 27, 2024, 2:21pm; Reply: 127
Green captain today but no Holohan or Ainley in the squad Is that a clue?
Posted by: devs, April 27, 2024, 2:29pm; Reply: 128
if true.. Harry and Green will be squad players I think - Harry as a utility type and Green more for legs and fight in last 20 mins of a game Stockwood has said (and repeated) we are working to a game model... in other words concentrate on the way we play rather than tinkering dependent on who we play Buckley was the same - didn't give a toss who we were playing it was always 442 passing footy and "come and see if you can beat us cos we aren't changing"
On that basis I'd say (with Gav leaving) Artell will look only for creative midfielders in summer - we have enough fight and work horses; what we need is that extra quality we need to enable us to play fast, attacking, passing footy
Hope so..
Posted by: SouthLakesMariner, April 27, 2024, 2:31pm; Reply: 129
Quoted from bawarmy The only thing certain is, this thread will get 200 pages
Before the 1st signing
..... before the first rumour
Posted by: Mariner93er, April 27, 2024, 2:31pm; Reply: 130
I'm fine with keeping Clifton, as long as we accept he's a winger. His best spells have all come while playing on the left and his ability to get back and offer defensive cover is always useful. I think it's often overlooked too that he is one of the best dribblers in our team - he just happens to be like most wingers at this level, with poor end product.
Not enthused about Green at all. Will be disappointed if he's been promised anything more than being a squad player.
Posted by: SheepGTFC, April 27, 2024, 3:15pm; Reply: 131
Heard a rumour Clifton is looking to leave. Been told it's a sort of "now or never" type situation
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, April 27, 2024, 3:17pm; Reply: 132
Heard a rumour Clifton is looking to leave. Been told it's a sort of "now or never" type situation
Heard similar. No idea if there’s anything in it though.
Posted by: jimgtfc, April 27, 2024, 5:02pm; Reply: 133
The club have a years option on Green’s contract. I highly doubt it’ll be new terms being discussed.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, April 27, 2024, 11:30pm; Reply: 134
Can't read too much into it, but in Artells post Crawley interview he said about the retained lists etc, and also said meetings with the players on Monday and retained list either Monday , Tuesday or Wednesday. He also said a meeting with another player . . . (Confused)
Posted by: davmariner, April 28, 2024, 12:00am; Reply: 135
Can't read too much into it, but in Artells post Crawley interview he said about the retained lists etc, and also said meetings with the players on Monday and retained list either Monday , Tuesday or Wednesday. He also said a meeting with another player . . . (Confused)
The meeting of other players is normal at this time of the year. In fact, I’d be worried if he weren’t.
Posted by: AdamHaddock, April 28, 2024, 5:59am; Reply: 136
1. Jay Lynch 2. Nathan Sheron 3. Rob Harker 4. Ethan Walker 5. Antwoine Hackford (loan)
Just wild guesses, rubbish it as you see fit
Posted by: louth_in_the_south, April 28, 2024, 8:30am; Reply: 137
He didn’t look very happy yesterday when he was warming up in front of me . I had the thought he looks like he’s off .
I can't lie, i hope he does go I'm not going to cry bottom about it, be gutted if we lost Thompson for comparison. I'll maintain if it wasn't for him being "one of our own" most people wouldn't be calling for him to get a new contract, he's NL level at best, and to progress we need more Thompsons and less Cliftons/Greens/Holohans.
Posted by: neverapen, April 28, 2024, 9:17am; Reply: 139
He didn’t look very happy yesterday when he was warming up in front of me . I had the thought he looks like he’s off .
It didn’t look particularly fun for many of them yesterday. A game with nothing to play for league wise but potentially contracts on the table, but also knowing there is about to be a massive squad clear out.
Think this is probably a crossroads moment of Clifton’s career, if the rumours are true then DA has offered him a contract however it could be that his agent is telling him to see what else is out there. Its a dilemma for him, under PH Harry was first on the team sheet, but I think next season under DA it will be different
Posted by: jamesgtfc, April 28, 2024, 9:35am; Reply: 140
It didn’t look particularly fun for many of them yesterday. A game with nothing to play for league wise but potentially contracts on the table, but also knowing there is about to be a massive squad clear out.
Think this is probably a crossroads moment of Clifton’s career, if the rumours are true then DA has offered him a contract however it could be that his agent is telling him to see what else is out there. Its a dilemma for him, under PH Harry was first on the team sheet, but I think next season under DA it will be different
If the data is driving our recruitment, it should also drive our retention, otherwise there is a conflict and it's unlikely to be successful.
Posted by: GollyGTFC, April 28, 2024, 9:40am; Reply: 141
I can't lie, i hope he does go I'm not going to cry bottom about it, be gutted if we lost Thompson for comparison. I'll maintain if it wasn't for him being "one of our own" most people wouldn't be calling for him to get a new contract, he's NL level at best, and to progress we need more Thompsons and less Cliftons/Greens/Holohans.
Thompson, good player, reads the game well, clever and strong. He can't run though. We need legs around him.
If Clifton leaves it will be league 2 or higher, not had a great season but nowhere near as bad as people have made out. Was fantastic the two seasons previous.
Posted by: Vance Warner, April 28, 2024, 4:36pm; Reply: 146
Thompson, good player, reads the game well, clever and strong. He can't run though. We need legs around him.
If Clifton leaves it will be league 2 or higher, not had a great season but nowhere near as bad as people have made out. Was fantastic the two seasons previous.
Agree with the assessment of Clifton. Lots of attributes that other clubs would welcome. He’s clearly been short of confidence this season particularly in front of goal. People seem to think he gets an easy ride because he is a Grimsby lad but I actually think the opposite is true.
Posted by: crusty ole pie, April 28, 2024, 4:47pm; Reply: 147
Agree with the assessment of Clifton. Lots of attributes that other clubs would welcome. He’s clearly been short of confidence this season particularly in front of goal. People seem to think he gets an easy ride because he is a Grimsby lad but I actually think the opposite is true.
DA did mention this recently saying it was hard for the lad living and playing in the same small town. Bit like school teachers no longer live anywhere near where they teach. The days of leaving your house in campden crescent and rocking up to the ground with your boots strung over your shoulders have long gone
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 28, 2024, 4:49pm; Reply: 148
Cameron McJannett main target for centre back
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, April 28, 2024, 4:53pm; Reply: 149
Re: Clifton
Some players play better when the quality of the other players around them is better. Play with shite players and that rubs off and makes them also play worse.
Lets see how it goes, but if he wants to leave, best of luck to him.
Posted by: ska face, April 28, 2024, 4:57pm; Reply: 150
Some players play better when the quality of the other players around them is better. Play with shite players and that rubs off and makes them also play worse.
Yeah, passengers they’re called. This season we’ve had more passengers than then 9x. Can’t afford any next year.
Posted by: forza ivano, April 28, 2024, 5:55pm; Reply: 151
a 25 year old who's been in the League of Ireland for 4 years and never played league football? really? Same league as Wood came from , where he was supposed to be really good, and he hardly pulled up any trees here
Posted by: MaccasBoots, April 28, 2024, 5:55pm; Reply: 152
A 5'8" centre half is certainly interesting! Suggests he must have other good qualities and isn't just a big lump. I wonder if this indicates we'll be sticking with the back three?
Posted by: pontoonlew, April 28, 2024, 6:26pm; Reply: 153
a 25 year old who's been in the League of Ireland for 4 years and never played league football? really? Same league as Wood came from , where he was supposed to be really good, and he hardly pulled up any trees here
Hutchinson was part of bringing a few Irish players into Lincoln, it hasn’t worked out too badly for them..
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 28, 2024, 6:30pm; Reply: 154
Certainly has an interesting profile, came through at Stoke. Club captain at Derry.. looks like he plays either left back or centre half so versatile.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, April 28, 2024, 8:15pm; Reply: 155
a 25 year old who's been in the League of Ireland for 4 years and never played league football? really? Same league as Wood came from , where he was supposed to be really good, and he hardly pulled up any trees here
Come on Forza a bit of difference between their ages and experience isn’t there? Not saying this guys any good but I don’t think Wood is the best yardstick to use. As another poster has said taking guys from Ireland has worked quite well for Lincoln!
Posted by: livosnose, April 28, 2024, 8:29pm; Reply: 156
DA did mention this recently saying it was hard for the lad living and playing in the same small town. Bit like school teachers no longer live anywhere near where they teach. The days of leaving your house in campden crescent and rocking up to the ground with your boots strung over your shoulders have long gone
I’m a teacher and I live next door to two of my students. Weirdly their granddad was former GTFC chairmen John Elsom…small world …in the Caribbean!
Posted by: crusty ole pie, April 28, 2024, 8:48pm; Reply: 157
a 25 year old who's been in the League of Ireland for 4 years and never played league football? really? Same league as Wood came from , where he was supposed to be really good, and he hardly pulled up any trees here
There's probally loads, but James McClean at Wrexham came from Derry City straight into Sunderlands team when they was in the Premiership. See Luke McNallys name pop up the other day and noticed he came from Derry City and signed for Oxford United, after one season in League One, he signed for Burnley in the Championship for 2 Million >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_McNally
Posted by: HistonMariner, April 28, 2024, 10:50pm; Reply: 159
Live amongst Cambridge fans who universally welcomed Ryan Bennet as a good signing but equally have been surprised how much he’s slowed down over the season. Increasingly used from the bench.
Suspect our ‘analysts’ are very keen on venturing into Europe and our owners would back such an idea because of greater value…..Expect a few imports.
Clifton to join up with PH ?
Posted by: forza ivano, April 28, 2024, 10:53pm; Reply: 160
There's probally loads, but James McClean at Wrexham came from Derry City straight into Sunderlands team when they was in the Premiership. See Luke McNallys name pop up the other day and noticed he came from Derry City and signed for Oxford United, after one season in League One, he signed for Burnley in the Championship for 2 Million >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_McNally
I am the world's worst pundit so I am more than likely to be completely wrong.McJannett will sign and be a world beater, but both McLean & McNally weren't in the LoI for 4 seasons and had attracted interest before they eventually left. can't see there's been any interest in McJannett. Also i follow the NI league quite closely, and it only takes half a season before they are snapped up.
Equally I totally accept that Joe has had some success with Irish recruitment, and he will have forgotten more than I will ever know
Posted by: Grimsby2012, April 29, 2024, 2:28am; Reply: 161
Live amongst Cambridge fans who universally welcomed Ryan Bennet as a good signing but equally have been surprised how much he’s slowed down over the season. Increasingly used from the bench.
Suspect our ‘analysts’ are very keen on venturing into Europe and our owners would back such an idea because of greater value…..Expect a few imports.
The fact that RB has slowed down and been increasingly used from the bench should be proof enough that he isn't for us. Waterfall was in a similar situation for us this season and allowed to leave.
Posted by: Abdul19, April 29, 2024, 8:08am; Reply: 163
4 sub appearances all season (and 1 since new year). 37 starts.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 29, 2024, 10:05am; Reply: 164
The fact that RB has slowed down and been increasingly used from the bench should be proof enough that he isn't for us. Waterfall was in a similar situation for us this season and allowed to leave.
He’s made 43 appearances this season and in minutes played has played 38.66 games.
Let’s not just believe something cause one persons said it’s true on the internet..
Posted by: OddShapedBalls, April 29, 2024, 10:39am; Reply: 165
On what must have been a slow news day by even Blackpool's standards back in January, their local online rag handily put together this list of 20 league 2 players who would be out of contract this summer. Waterfall appears on it, but please skip over number 2 on the list for your own sanity :
Posted by: Nutsy, April 29, 2024, 10:58am; Reply: 166
I’d really like us to keep hold of Ainley and would like us to go in for Jack Payne - think those two coupled with Thompson would be very interesting
Posted by: Simon, April 29, 2024, 11:30am; Reply: 167
Had some decent players from overseas in the past so i do hope our scouting network and data analysts are searching far and wide for the next zang enhua, ivano, jamie forrister, david neilson, menno willams
Posted by: Poojah, April 29, 2024, 11:42am; Reply: 168
Charlie Lakin, on loan at Sutton from Burton, is an interesting one. 8 goals from his last 15 games in midfield at League Two’s second worst side seems like a pretty impressive return under the circumstances.
To temper that a little, at 24 years-old he’s done next to nothing in his career prior to that, however Dan Kemp who suddenly found form at relegated Hartlepool last season has kept it going at Swindon and BFS this season with another 19 goals, so maybe worth a look at what our super-spreadsheet says.
Also at Sutton, big Harry Smith scored another 14 this season, again at a struggling side. He’s probably one of the most touted non-ex GTFC players in recent summer windows, and still the type of player I feel we sorely lack. Maybe not conducive to Artell-ball v2, mind.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 29, 2024, 11:44am; Reply: 169
Charlie Lakin, on loan at Sutton from Burton, is an interesting one. 8 goals from his last 15 games in midfield at League Two’s second worst side seems like a pretty impressive return under the circumstances.
To temper that a little, at 24 years-old he’s done next to nothing in his career prior to that, however Dan Kemp who suddenly found form at relegated Hartlepool last season has kept it going at Swindon and BFS this season with another 19 goals, so maybe worth a look at what our super-spreadsheet says.
Also at Sutton, big Harry Smith scored another 14 this season, again at a struggling side. He’s probably one of the most touted non-ex GTFC players in recent summer windows, and still the type of player I feel we sorely lack. Maybe not conducive to Artell-ball v2, mind.
I do hope we recruit someone that can actually attack a set piece though, launching Tharmes throw ins into the box is as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
Posted by: Nutsy, April 29, 2024, 11:56am; Reply: 170
Something like this with additions at CB, LB and the signings of Smith, Adalakun and Payne…
Dewhurst Smith TBD Tharme TBD Payne Thompson Ainley Adelakun Rose Vernam
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 29, 2024, 12:14pm; Reply: 171
Been told we have interest in Emile Acquah
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, April 29, 2024, 12:21pm; Reply: 172
A quick scan of Transfermarkt doesn't fill me with excitement - 8 goals in 44 appearances, made the first 11 50% of the time and joined Barrow after bouncing between Southend and Maidenhead on loan and then permanently.
The new Abo Eisa. And we still need to get rid of the old one.
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 29, 2024, 12:25pm; Reply: 173
Pretty sure he was one we heard mentioned last summer and January aswell? Only 23
I think we’ve been linked with him going all the way back to the January-22 window in the National League. Not sure that validates or invalidates the rumour.
Posted by: Grantham_Mariner, April 29, 2024, 12:33pm; Reply: 175
BL00dy L. After 12 o'clock first week day after the end of season AND NO SIGNINGS YET. ;D
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, April 29, 2024, 12:36pm; Reply: 176
On what must have been a slow news day by even Blackpool's standards back in January, their local online rag handily put together this list of 20 league 2 players who would be out of contract this summer. Waterfall appears on it, but please skip over number 2 on the list for your own sanity :
A quick scan of Transfermarkt doesn't fill me with excitement - 8 goals in 44 appearances, made the first 11 50% of the time and joined Barrow after bouncing between Southend and Maidenhead on loan and then permanently.
The new Abo Eisa. And we still need to get rid of the old one.
Tbf to him, Barrow probably have 2 of the best strikers in the league.
Posted by: Mappers, April 29, 2024, 1:12pm; Reply: 178
A quick scan of Transfermarkt doesn't fill me with excitement - 8 goals in 44 appearances, made the first 11 50% of the time and joined Barrow after bouncing between Southend and Maidenhead on loan and then permanently.
The new Abo Eisa. And we still need to get rid of the old one.
He's more an Akinde type isn't he ? Thought he looked decent against us tbf big and strong with decent technique . Sign him up
Posted by: nealeardleyscrossing, April 29, 2024, 4:35pm; Reply: 179
You will do well to prise Adeluken away from Doncaster.
He's on loan from Lincoln.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, April 29, 2024, 7:33pm; Reply: 181
If, like other Managers/Head Coaches, DA looks towards his previous incumbents at Crewe, there are a few that look to be out of contract who might have some interest in playing under him again.
Billy Sass-Davies was made available for transfer by Crewe at the end of the 22-23 season, but went out on a season long loan to Boreham Wood instead.
Luke Offord is available, but he is still recovering from ankle surgery. He was appointed the club Captain in the 22-23 season, having played under DA the season before.
Posted by: RonMariner, April 29, 2024, 9:03pm; Reply: 182
If, like other Managers/Head Coaches, DA looks towards his previous incumbents at Crewe, there are a few that look to be out of contract who might have some interest in playing under him again.
Billy Sass-Davies was made available for transfer by Crewe at the end of the 22-23 season, but went out on a season long loan to Boreham Wood instead.
Luke Offord is available, but he is still recovering from ankle surgery. He was appointed the club Captain in the 22-23 season, having played under DA the season before.
That may be true, but I get the impression that this summers recruitment will be data lead rather than who you might have managed before..
Posted by: SheepGTFC, April 30, 2024, 3:07am; Reply: 183
I know it's not a transfer nor rumour but just a random thought I had. Clifton would make a better fullback than central midfielder. Would be like a new signing. He proven he is decent on the wing when he had that good spell at left mid. Be interesting to see him have a run at right back, think he could be quite effective there as he doesn't have the presence to be a central mid in my opinion
Posted by: ska face, April 30, 2024, 7:08am; Reply: 184
We don’t need any wingbacks or fullbacks that cant cross the ball. It’s a low bar but most of this squad have failed to reach it. Quick thought experiment - can anyone remember a single good pass that Clifton has managed in a town shirt? For someone who’s played the majority of his career in midfield I’m struggling to remember one incisive, accurate, chance-creating pass.
Posted by: SheepGTFC, April 30, 2024, 7:20am; Reply: 185
We don’t need any wingbacks or fullbacks that cant cross the ball. It’s a low bar but most of this squad have failed to reach it. Quick thought experiment - can anyone remember a single good pass that Clifton has managed in a town shirt? For someone who’s played the majority of his career in midfield I’m struggling to remember one incisive, accurate, chance-creating pass.
Have to agree with you tbh, Clifton is a hard working midfielder not really creative and not really a goalscorer either. I do really like having a local lad in the side and I do think it is important but think the reality is he's probably just not cut out for this level.
Posted by: Mappers, April 30, 2024, 8:58am; Reply: 186
Have to agree with you tbh, Clifton is a hard working midfielder not really creative and not really a goalscorer either. I do really like having a local lad in the side and I do think it is important but think the reality is he's probably just not cut out for this level.
I think he's a good one to have around for his versatility , I would be keen on keeping him . As a left midfield player he's more than capable aswell imo ,he had a very good season last time out with a decent goals return ; whether he has the capabilities in an Artell ball type team is debatable but it's certainly not in the middle of the park .
I think for his own good and any opportunity of playing higher up in the short term he should leave anyway for a fresh challenge, he would probably do really well away from his hometown club with less scrutiny and expectation .
Posted by: Garth, April 30, 2024, 9:58am; Reply: 187
Harry is part of the furniture here and would be a better player elsewhere, it's the same in any walk of life, your more appreciated elsewhere
Posted by: chaos33, April 30, 2024, 10:25am; Reply: 188
I know it's not a transfer nor rumour but just a random thought I had. Clifton would make a better fullback than central midfielder. Would be like a new signing. He proven he is decent on the wing when he had that good spell at left mid. Be interesting to see him have a run at right back, think he could be quite effective there as he doesn't have the presence to be a central mid in my opinion
As cover, but not ideally first choice at full back for me. His fitness is great but I don’t think his passing and crossing are as good as we night want from attacking full backs. I think you need your wing backs, if we go with that philosophy, to be good technically, and ideally, quick.
Posted by: Alan Buckley, April 30, 2024, 10:32am; Reply: 189
Surely I’m top of the ska league by now 😎
Posted by: chaos33, April 30, 2024, 10:33am; Reply: 190
For what?
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, April 30, 2024, 11:05am; Reply: 191
Told York have interest in taking Alex Hunt permanently
Posted by: Mikey_345, April 30, 2024, 11:10am; Reply: 192
I know it's not a transfer nor rumour but just a random thought I had. Clifton would make a better fullback than central midfielder. Would be like a new signing. He proven he is decent on the wing when he had that good spell at left mid. Be interesting to see him have a run at right back, think he could be quite effective there as he doesn't have the presence to be a central mid in my opinion
Our greatest ever right back Macca, started as a midfielder under Alan Buckley.
Posted by: Mayaman, April 30, 2024, 3:12pm; Reply: 197
We don’t need any wingbacks or fullbacks that cant cross the ball. It’s a low bar but most of this squad have failed to reach it. Quick thought experiment - can anyone remember a single good pass that Clifton has managed in a town shirt? For someone who’s played the majority of his career in midfield I’m struggling to remember one incisive, accurate, chance-creating pass.
Can't believe he hasn't made any. Was it against Luton he beat two players despite being fouled and got the ball in for a goal.
Posted by: tashee69, April 30, 2024, 3:34pm; Reply: 198
We don’t need any wingbacks or fullbacks that cant cross the ball. It’s a low bar but most of this squad have failed to reach it. Quick thought experiment - can anyone remember a single good pass that Clifton has managed in a town shirt? For someone who’s played the majority of his career in midfield I’m struggling to remember one incisive, accurate, chance-creating pass.
I think there are a few. Here's one 2nd goal in this game.
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, April 30, 2024, 7:07pm; Reply: 201
Posted by: Maringer, April 30, 2024, 7:11pm; Reply: 202
Smith looked fine to me. At least he seemed to know what he was doing as a full-back, unlike some of the players we've had in there this season. Took his goal excellently-well against Swindon as well. I wouldn't be enormously excited if he signed, but I'd rather see him at right-back than Mullarkey.
Posted by: Chrisblor, April 30, 2024, 7:19pm; Reply: 203
George Lloyd's out of contract as well (although unlike Smith he's been offered a new deal by Cheltenham). Yes yes ex-players and all that etc etc zzzz, but i'd be shoving our own contract under his nose and trying to tempt him back here.
Posted by: mariner2000, April 30, 2024, 7:45pm; Reply: 204
York's owner tweeted 'Early bird gets the worm 🐛 stay Tuned' the other day, so adds credence to that. Think they're desperate to get him back.
He's got a track record for spending big, so will probably happen.
They are also desperately after AMOS so he could very much be the first signing they are referring to. But yes they want Hunt too, we'll see if they'll stump up the cash....
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, April 30, 2024, 8:01pm; Reply: 205
They are also desperately after AMOS so he could very much be the first signing they are referring to. But yes they want Hunt too, we'll see if they'll stump up the cash....
Really liked Amos great attitude and a great signing at that level.
Posted by: bawarmy, April 30, 2024, 9:00pm; Reply: 206
George Lloyd's out of contract as well (although unlike Smith he's been offered a new deal by Cheltenham). Yes yes ex-players and all that etc etc zzzz, but i'd be shoving our own contract under his nose and trying to tempt him back here.
He would be a fabulous partner for Rose.
Posted by: acko338, May 1, 2024, 6:57am; Reply: 213
Lloyd seemed happy to be here and certainly buzzed around in the no10 role, dragging defenders out of position and scoring an odd few goals as well.
Has some pace in him and chases lost causes. Would be a very good acquisition, so I hope that the data proves me right, and someone has been tracking him in a poor side this season.
Not sure if he finished the season injured as he wasn't playing or on the bench in their last few matches ?
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, May 1, 2024, 7:31am; Reply: 214
Lloyd seemed happy to be here and certainly buzzed around in the no10 role, dragging defenders out of position and scoring an odd few goals as well.
Has some pace in him and chases lost causes. Would be a very good acquisition, so I hope that the data proves me right, and someone has been tracking him in a poor side this season.
Not sure if he finished the season injured as he wasn't playing or on the bench in their last few matches ?
I reckon he’ll end up at Shrewsbury with PH.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, May 1, 2024, 7:51am; Reply: 215
I wonder if Danny Rose lives in Barnsley, seen as that's his home town. Doncaster is much closer than Grimsby . . .
Posted by: neverapen, May 1, 2024, 8:11am; Reply: 216
I wonder if Danny Rose lives in Barnsley, seen as that's his home town. Doncaster is much closer than Grimsby . . .
I'm sure I've read somewhere that he lives round the corner from a town fan who also lives in Barnsley.
Hopefully the injury he's carrying will stop people looking for now.
I dont know much about the Donny team but I read somewhere part of the reason they've done well is because of the loan players they've brought in, which may not translate to future permanent signings. Unless they do win the playoffs I'm not sure moving to Donny would be a better move, unless travel is that much of a factor for him. If Barnsley swooped for him however, that could be a different story
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 1, 2024, 8:15am; Reply: 217
Danny is under contract and Captains the side so don’t see any way the club and him will be parting ways this summer.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, May 1, 2024, 8:21am; Reply: 218
I'm sure I've read somewhere that he lives round the corner from a town fan who also lives in Barnsley.
Hopefully the injury he's carrying will stop people looking for now.
I dont know much about the Donny team but I read somewhere part of the reason they've done well is because of the loan players they've brought in, which may not translate to future permanent signings. Unless they do win the playoffs I'm not sure moving to Donny would be a better move, unless travel is that much of a factor for him. If Barnsley swooped for him however, that could be a different story
Yeah, he's still got another year on his contract, I doubt we would let him go for buttons if we did. That Joe Ironside scored 6 of his 20 goals from penalties, so goal scoring very similar to Danny Rose, who scored I think 2 from the penalty spot.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 1, 2024, 10:28am; Reply: 219
I wonder if Danny Rose lives in Barnsley, seen as that's his home town. Doncaster is much closer than Grimsby . . .
His mum was at a game, someone was chatting to her saying he was settled at Gy and had no intention or interest in leaving before the end of his contract. He's nailed on to be the first name on the team sheet, and to a pro footballer that means an awful lot imo
I thought he did ok too. Got on with his job in a very undramatic way. I wonder if he wasn't offered something because DA already has somebody else in mind for that position.
Posted by: Maringer, May 1, 2024, 12:27pm; Reply: 222
Two players who run their bits off and never let the opposition defenders have a moment's rest. Would be a very useful pairing at this level and I'd imagine both would score some goals due to the sheer workrate of their partner.
The fact that he has played a good number of games for Cheltenham during this year even though he didn't score very many would tend to indicate he has done OK this season. I tend to doubt he was too much to blame for their relegation!
As others have said, could well see him heading to the Shrews, as we know Hurst likes a player he's worked with in the past.
Posted by: Stew0_0, May 1, 2024, 12:51pm; Reply: 223
Would definitely welcome George Lloyd Back.
Regarding Smith, the only Smith I would love to see here next season is Andy Smith. Wonder if Hull would let him out for a 3rd stint at the club
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 1, 2024, 1:03pm; Reply: 224
23 pages in and we’re almost at a full 11 of ex players, top work everyone 👏
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, May 1, 2024, 1:06pm; Reply: 225
His mum was at a game, someone was chatting to her saying he was settled at Gy and had no intention or interest in leaving before the end of his contract. He's nailed on to be the first name on the team sheet, and to a pro footballer that means an awful lot imo
That's good to hear, would be good if Town could extend another year maybe. I just noticed his league goals this year at Town are the second highest Rose has scored in his career so far.
Posted by: MarinerDevil, May 1, 2024, 1:42pm; Reply: 226
Right I know he falls into the old player category, however I'd challenge anyone to actually come up with a decent reason this wouldn't be a good signing - other than the fact he's an ex-player. He lives here and has been close to coming back before so isn't unfounded to some extent.
We've missed leadership and experience this season, he ticks that box. He's played at a high level and is comfortable with the ball to feet, so ticks that box. Only downside is age however someone at 34 who's played at such a high level for a big part of his career will have looked after himself.
Only downside is we will have quite a lot of rumour, speculation and 'ITK' stuff now until he either returns, goes elsewhere or retires...
Posted by: Poojah, May 1, 2024, 2:26pm; Reply: 228
Right I know he falls into the old player category, however I'd challenge anyone to actually come up with a decent reason this wouldn't be a good signing - other than the fact he's an ex-player. He lives here and has been close to coming back before so isn't unfounded to some extent.
We've missed leadership and experience this season, he ticks that box. He's played at a high level and is comfortable with the ball to feet, so ticks that box. Only downside is age however someone at 34 who's played at such a high level for a big part of his career will have looked after himself.
Only downside is we will have quite a lot of rumour, speculation and 'ITK' stuff now until he either returns, goes elsewhere or retires...
Comments from Cambridge fans:
Big part of keeping Cambridge in Div 1 for last 18 months.
Great shift- good luck for the future.
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Definitely. Right time to move on for us but he's been very good & definitely still has something to offer at this level.
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Go well Sir. Has been pivotal for the last season and a half, but as many of us have been saying for a while, we can only realistically keep one of him and Morro for next season.
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I’ll miss his seemingly constant arms in the air appealing and his always excellent 10 yard sideways passes to Andrew or Lennet.
Right I know he falls into the old player category, however I'd challenge anyone to actually come up with a decent reason this wouldn't be a good signing - other than the fact he's an ex-player. He lives here and has been close to coming back before so isn't unfounded to some extent.
We've missed leadership and experience this season, he ticks that box. He's played at a high level and is comfortable with the ball to feet, so ticks that box. Only downside is age however someone at 34 who's played at such a high level for a big part of his career will have looked after himself.
Only downside is we will have quite a lot of rumour, speculation and 'ITK' stuff now until he either returns, goes elsewhere or retires...
We know in that youthful Crewe side that DA signed players with football league experience. Would shock me if he isn't a Grimsby player next season.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 1, 2024, 2:40pm; Reply: 231
We know in that youthful Crewe side that DA signed players with football league experience. Would shock me if he isn't a Grimsby player next season.
Yep and not as if we haven't had interest before, presumably from Joe Hutchinson, and I'd assume that must have been reciprocated to some degree. Wasn't the rumour last time he wasn't impressed with Doig or something like that?
I'd be shocked if we weren't interested. Think it'd be a great signing for the reasons i said earlier - one to help steady the ship abit.
Posted by: Hagrid, May 1, 2024, 2:41pm; Reply: 232
George Ray, who played for Artell at Crewe, Released by Barrow
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 1, 2024, 2:44pm; Reply: 233
George Ray, who played for Artell at Crewe, Released by Barrow
He let him go whilst he was there though I think
Posted by: pontoonlew, May 1, 2024, 2:56pm; Reply: 234
I’d actually be surprised if we didn’t sign Bennett, makes perfect sense for all parties IMO.
I was told by somebody who’s always been 100% reliable that it was down to him not liking Hurst/Doig that scuppered things last time round. You’d imagine the change of management should open that door again.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 1, 2024, 2:56pm; Reply: 235
Saikou Janneh I mentioned the other day been released. Plenty of pace that we’ve been missing. No intel whatsoever he’s just one of those players I seem to have remembered from watching something
Posted by: nealeardleyscrossing, May 1, 2024, 3:01pm; Reply: 236
Saikou Janneh I mentioned the other day been released. Plenty of pace that we’ve been missing. No intel whatsoever he’s just one of those players I seem to have remembered from watching something
He played against us a couple of weeks ago, he may just have been having a bad game, but their whole back 4 were awful, they were incredibly slow.
Posted by: Hagrid, May 1, 2024, 3:02pm; Reply: 237
I’d actually be surprised if we didn’t sign Bennett, makes perfect sense for all parties IMO.
I was told by somebody who’s always been 100% reliable that it was down to him not liking Hurst/Doig that scuppered things last time round. You’d imagine the change of management should open that door again.
Doig I can completely get on board with, never took to him personally and know of players who took offence to his way of coaching, But I've never heard of a player come out and say they've never liked Hurst ( unless they wronged him and then he was as stubborn as could be)
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 1, 2024, 3:11pm; Reply: 238
I’d actually be surprised if we didn’t sign Bennett, makes perfect sense for all parties IMO.
I was told by somebody who’s always been 100% reliable that it was down to him not liking Hurst/Doig that scuppered things last time round. You’d imagine the change of management should open that door again.
Yeah, I spoke with Ryan a few times over the summer as we often took our dogs walking up at Neville Turners Way and whilst he didn't get into too many details he said that the deal was all but done and then it all fell apart. I don't think it's right to be intrusive into his personal details so i've never asked what actually happened but to go from all but done to signing for Cambridge has to be quite something.
Posted by: pontoonlew, May 1, 2024, 3:39pm; Reply: 239
Doig I can completely get on board with, never took to him personally and know of players who took offence to his way of coaching, But I've never heard of a player come out and say they've never liked Hurst ( unless they wronged him and then he was as stubborn as could be)
It was more the way they handled things apparently. He felt as though he’d been messed about and there was an indecision on whether or not to sign him.
Could easily put it down to ego, there’s 2 sides to it no doubt.
Watch him sign for Shrewsbury now..
Posted by: Stew0_0, May 1, 2024, 3:45pm; Reply: 240
Would take both Bennett and Harrison Dunk from that retained list TBH
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, May 1, 2024, 4:36pm; Reply: 241
It was more the way they handled things apparently. He felt as though he’d been messed about and there was an indecision on whether or not to sign him.
Could easily put it down to ego, there’s 2 sides to it no doubt.
Watch him sign for Shrewsbury now..
Grimsby to Cambridge is a bit of a schlep, Grimsby to Shrewsbury is a royal pain in the *rse unless they can sort out acommodation in the deal.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, May 1, 2024, 4:38pm; Reply: 242
I've said elsewhere, I'd have Bennett here in a heartbeat. Piles of experience, leadership, calm authority, good influence on other players.
Posted by: denni266, May 1, 2024, 5:08pm; Reply: 243
What we dont want is more sick notes and young kids not ready for league 2
Posted by: Meza, May 1, 2024, 5:11pm; Reply: 244
Its time for him to come home and finish what he started with us ;D
Posted by: mariner2000, May 1, 2024, 7:57pm; Reply: 245
One thing we all need to remember is whether the player previously played for Artell or the player previously played for Town or was going to sign last year etc. regardless of the manager/clubs/players desire, if the player doesn't have the data to show he fits into the team plan then we ain't signing him!
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 1, 2024, 9:45pm; Reply: 246
Its time for him to come home and finish what he started with us ;D
What, relegation?
Points deductions spared him it in 08/09 and then he got out early enough into the ill fated 09/10 season.
Said earlier, cracking player but if we've only got one centre back slot to fill I think we need more athleticism there than we do the attributes brought by Bennett.
If there's scope for both Bennett and someone else, I'll drive Bennett the 2 miles to Cheapside myself.
Posted by: toontown, May 1, 2024, 10:35pm; Reply: 247
Right I know he falls into the old player category, however I'd challenge anyone to actually come up with a decent reason this wouldn't be a good signing - other than the fact he's an ex-player. He lives here and has been close to coming back before so isn't unfounded to some extent.
We've missed leadership and experience this season, he ticks that box. He's played at a high level and is comfortable with the ball to feet, so ticks that box. Only downside is age however someone at 34 who's played at such a high level for a big part of his career will have looked after himself.
Only downside is we will have quite a lot of rumour, speculation and 'ITK' stuff now until he either returns, goes elsewhere or retires...
I can come up with one - it's not a definite one cos I haven't seen the guy play, but it's just a concern that with his age being 34 he may be slow. With Tharme, good as he is in some respects, already being on the slower side then that could be an Achilles heel. We don't want to have a pair of waterfall paces players in the heart of a back 4. However the Cambridge fans comments never mention lack of pace so hopefully this isn't a problem, esp as he is dropping down a level.
The other potential problem is just his age potentially meaning he is more injury prone and that leading to less availability and thus more appearances from Rodger who I just don't trust in a back 4. However, again doesn't seem like he's had issues last season.
Overall I'd be really pleased with his signing if the pace thing isn't an issue.
Posted by: grimsby pete, May 1, 2024, 10:47pm; Reply: 248
Bobby Moore was not very fast but his brain was way ahead of every other players.
He did ok don't you think. ?
Ryan would be the same for us premiership brain playing in League Two.
Posted by: Maringer, May 1, 2024, 11:39pm; Reply: 249
Erm, Futcher? Paul, not Ben, obviously.
He was so good he didn't need to run quickly. I'd imagine Bennett would have similarly good positioning and the ability to read the game. He's made almost 500 appearances during his career, mostly at a higher level than we are now. I think he'd be a fine signing.
Pace is helpful in a central defender, but it's not the be all and end all. Maguire is a slow as anything but remains a good defender. Could do with nippy full-backs, mind.
Posted by: Lord Gadiform, May 1, 2024, 11:54pm; Reply: 250
Bobby Moore was not very fast but his brain was way ahead of every other players.
He did ok don't you think. ?
Ryan would be the same for us premiership brain playing in League Two.
I understand the sentiment Pete. Comparisons with Bobby Moore are surely a bit of a stretch and set expectations no player could ever live up to.
Posted by: Mariner93er, May 2, 2024, 12:02am; Reply: 251
It's also important to remember that Artell is likely to revert back to playing out from the back. Considering the level he's played at in the past and his experience, I'd imagine Bennett is a good fit for this.
I'd also argue that Danny Collins is a good example of how a wise head can easily outweigh a lack of pace, was arguably one of the best centre backs we've had in recent times.
Posted by: SheepGTFC, May 2, 2024, 3:08am; Reply: 252
I really liked Danny Collins, but every time I see his name I remember that own goal
Posted by: Davec, May 2, 2024, 6:59am; Reply: 253
Danny Collins was really good and you could tell he had played at a higher level, sadly age did slowly come to catch him up however
Posted by: neverapen, May 2, 2024, 7:24am; Reply: 254
David Artell said on Radio Humberside last night that he will be bringing in players from across of range of ages so don’t think age should factor Ryan Bennet out if he’s a fit for the plan. If his experience also helps the development of the likes of Tharme etc then why not.
Posted by: coddy60, May 2, 2024, 7:31am; Reply: 255
I’d actually be surprised if we didn’t sign Bennett, makes perfect sense for all parties IMO.
I was told by somebody who’s always been 100% reliable that it was down to him not liking Hurst/Doig that scuppered things last time round. You’d imagine the change of management should open that door again.
Problem was, we never offered him anything until Cambridge did. From the horses mouth...
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, May 2, 2024, 7:40am; Reply: 256
Problem was, we never offered him anything until Cambridge did. From the horses mouth...
With Ryan Bennett - Maybe he hit those data sets the Club were looking for but it was PHs stubbornness that chose not to sign him….Just a thought.
Posted by: forza ivano, May 2, 2024, 9:33am; Reply: 257
according to wiki Ryan has played 268 of his 479 league games at Premiership or Championship level.
(for way of comparison Danny Collins had made 321 of his 333 appearances in the Championship or premiership)
neverapen makes a good point in that his experience and nous could be really positive for Tharme in particular. His leadership (was captain at 19) as well as his ability to play right back are also pluses, and you know he's going to be fully committed to the cause
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 2, 2024, 10:52am; Reply: 258
according to wiki Ryan has played 268 of his 479 league games at Premiership or Championship level.
(for way of comparison Danny Collins had made 321 of his 333 appearances in the Championship or premiership)
neverapen makes a good point in that his experience and nous could be really positive for Tharme in particular. His leadership (was captain at 19) as well as his ability to play right back are also pluses, and you know he's going to be fully committed to the cause
We're often quite skeptical about players of that age as you either 1, expect the legs have gone or 2, they're looking for one last pay day. Based on Cambridge fans reactions we can assume that number 1 is out the window. Number 2 is out the window because we know how much he loves the club and how much he wants to be back here.
Posted by: GyMariner, May 2, 2024, 11:37am; Reply: 259
We're often quite skeptical about players of that age as you either 1, expect the legs have gone or 2, they're looking for one last pay day. Based on Cambridge fans reactions we can assume that number 1 is out the window. Number 2 is out the window because we know how much he loves the club and how much he wants to be back here.
I wouldn't say 'how much he wants to be back here,' but I get the gist and could be a decent addition
Posted by: sam gy, May 2, 2024, 11:56am; Reply: 260
Honestly surprised that anyone would not want someone like Bennett signing for us, given where he's been in his career, where we've been since he left us, and the frankly low quality of players we've had since too.
For a CB that's played at such a high level and clearly looked after himself, 34 is not a terrible age. Danny Collins was 36 when he signed for us and had a few decent seasons still!
Posted by: sam gy, May 2, 2024, 12:12pm; Reply: 261
Luke Waterfall is 4 months younger than Ryan Bennett and most had absolutely no objections to us having him in the squad this time last year.
I love Luke and what he did for the club, but come on... :)
Posted by: Nutsy, May 2, 2024, 12:15pm; Reply: 262
Looking at Lincoln’s list. I’d take Enyoma, Bishop, Adelakun …
Probably will stay at L1 level though or go to Doncaster…
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 2, 2024, 12:18pm; Reply: 263
Honestly surprised that anyone would not want someone like Bennett signing for us, given where he's been in his career, where we've been since he left us, and the frankly low quality of players we've had since too.
For a CB that's played at such a high level and clearly looked after himself, 34 is not a terrible age. Danny Collins was 36 when he signed for us and had a few decent seasons still!
Apologies if it's been mentioned on this thread earlier - but the great Paul Futcher was 35 when he signed & he gave us 5 class years.
Posted by: VinnyGTFC, May 2, 2024, 1:03pm; Reply: 265
Honestly surprised that anyone would not want someone like Bennett signing for us, given where he's been in his career, where we've been since he left us, and the frankly low quality of players we've had since too.
For a CB that's played at such a high level and clearly looked after himself, 34 is not a terrible age. Danny Collins was 36 when he signed for us and had a few decent seasons still!
Doesn't
It doesn't matter what we think, Artell isn't from the area, and hasn't spaffed himself every time there is any mention of Bennett. I'm sure he has his own targets and Bennett may well not be one of them. Let's move on.
Posted by: grimsby pete, May 2, 2024, 2:38pm; Reply: 266
One thing some of our younger fans might not know.
When Ryan was playing in the prem he donated £25,000 to our youth set up.
An all round good guy. 8)
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 2, 2024, 2:39pm; Reply: 267
A player that stood out for me last season, even more so that he was in a 5hit team was Kyle mcallister at the veggies. Am sure he won’t want to be playing in the NL given his undoubted ability. Everything this transfer window is far less predictable than previous years so i guess it’s a case of waiting to see
A player that stood out for me last season, even more so that he was in a 5hit team was Kyle mcallister at the veggies. Am sure he won’t want to be playing in the NL given his undoubted ability. Everything this transfer window is far less predictable than previous years so i guess it’s a case of waiting to see
Yeah I'd agree with that.
Thought the Newport left back looked pretty decent to.
Posted by: Blundellite, May 2, 2024, 3:00pm; Reply: 269
John Marquis 31 been released by brizzle rovers good player at this level
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 2, 2024, 3:02pm; Reply: 270
Two players that have done well in NL that maybe abit out our reach now (with how well they've done) are Chris Conn-Clarke 22 from 46 at Altrincham and Ben Krauhaus at Bromley (Loaned from Brentford). Would love to be picking a couple up similar with the potential to move on afterwards.
Posted by: Poojah, May 2, 2024, 3:25pm; Reply: 271
Two players that have done well in NL that maybe abit out our reach now (with how well they've done) are Chris Conn-Clarke 22 from 46 at Altrincham and Ben Krauhaus at Bromley (Loaned from Brentford). Would love to be picking a couple up similar with the potential to move on afterwards.
Conn-Clarke looks one hell of a player. Similar to McAtee in style and gait, but slightly more prolific (at National League-level, at least). Proper tenacious little bàstard.
Like McAtee, I think he’ll end up higher up the food chain than us, though.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 2, 2024, 5:22pm; Reply: 272
The small black lad from Harrogate was very impressive in our home game and always looks decent on clips of Harrogate matches. Apologies for not having a clue what his name is.
Posted by: Hagrid, May 2, 2024, 5:24pm; Reply: 273
The small black lad from Harrogate was very impressive in our home game and always looks decent on clips of Harrogate matches. Apologies for not having a clue what his name is.
Odoh
Posted by: Blundellite, May 2, 2024, 6:21pm; Reply: 274
Odoh impressed me in the home game too - very direct
Posted by: Chrisblor, May 2, 2024, 7:18pm; Reply: 275
Thought Odoh was shite with zero end product personally, exactly the same as when he was at Rochdale. On the other hand I thought Derrick Abu who Harrogate had on loan from Southampton and played at right back for them against us a few weeks ago was superb. Doubt there's much chance Southampton would loan him out to League Two again next season but he's definitely one i'd be happy to have here.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 2, 2024, 8:47pm; Reply: 276
John Marquis 31 been released by brizzle rovers good player at this level
Thought he'd be older, was it Peterborough where he was absolutely unplayable and prolific, then moved to Donny i think..definitely a player that would work brilliantly with Rose imo.
Posted by: Poojah, May 2, 2024, 8:51pm; Reply: 277
Thought he'd be older, was it Peterborough where he was absolutely unplayable and prolific, then moved to Donny i think..definitely a player that would work brilliantly with Rose imo.
Prolific at Donny, then signed for Portsmouth (where he did ok). Has an excellent record in League Two, where I suspect he'll end up (probably not here though).
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 2, 2024, 8:55pm; Reply: 278
Prolific at Donny, then signed for Portsmouth (where he did ok). Has an excellent record in League Two, where I suspect he'll end up (probably not here though).
Thank you. 1 in 2 for Donny then 1 in 3 for pompey.. All gone a bit belly up for him last couple of years, just wonder though, its not beyond possibility we could tempt him, only other team, if they don't go up id favour over us would be Donny
Posted by: Poojah, May 2, 2024, 9:29pm; Reply: 279
Thank you. 1 in 2 for Donny then 1 in 3 for pompey.. All gone a bit belly up for him last couple of years, just wonder though, its not beyond possibility we could tempt him, only other team, if they don't go up id favour over us would be Donny
I might be wrong, but I don’t expect us to sign anyone of Marquis’ profile. He’d be an obvious attraction for any League Two club, but whilst we might have lost Stockport, Wrexham and Mansfield, there are still bigger hitters than us with respect to finance.
Presumably the argument for going down the data-led route (rightly or wrongly) is threefold. One, it gives you a structure to build a particular way of playing around; two, it gives you a framework by which to validate your thinking and three; arguably most importantly, it opens your eyes to potential key signings that others have missed (and less competition is generally going to equate to lower cost).
Ultimately, if the system we’ve employed simply spits out a shopping list of John Marquis, Ryan Bennett, John Bostock, Hakeeb Adelakun and James Wilson, then we probably could have saved some money and just asked the Fishy.
The Bennett one, to be fair, has a possibility of happening simply by virtue of the fact that he’s an out-of-contract, ex-Town, ex-Prem defender that just happens to live a 5-minute drive from the training ground, but if it does, it’s likely to be the exception im what sounds like will be a spreadsheet-heavy summer.
Posted by: Mappers, May 2, 2024, 9:45pm; Reply: 280
Any suggestions on the keeper front ?
Assuming it will have to be one good with his feet
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 2, 2024, 9:53pm; Reply: 281
Just been reading an article about Morecambe captain ferrand rawson, and the fact he’s looking/expected to move to a rival league 2 side. Issues around wages not being paid/late and now without a manager I wouldn’t be surprised to see a big turnover of players there
Posted by: Mappers, May 2, 2024, 10:08pm; Reply: 282
Just been reading an article about Morecambe captain ferrand rawson, and the fact he’s looking/expected to move to a rival league 2 side. Issues around wages not being paid/late and now without a manager I wouldn’t be surprised to see a big turnover of players there
They have had it unless they get taken over. Probably would be good for us if they are shafted but don't wish it on their fans .
No one will re-sign because they have regularly been paid late .
Posted by: Marinerdeano, May 2, 2024, 11:23pm; Reply: 283
Rumour that Harrison Dunk from. Cambridge is incoming. Experienced centre half and hero to Cambridge fans.
Posted by: Norseman, May 3, 2024, 12:05am; Reply: 284
I don’t believe that rumour at all. He’s nearly 34 and has barely played 30 games in the last two seasons.
But then again, thats the sort of player we habitually sign every year. You would rather hope that the data-led approach would would take in to consideration the injuryproneness of individuals.
We will see how it all pans out soon enough
Posted by: GollyGTFC, May 3, 2024, 8:17am; Reply: 289
After browsing through this thread I think people need to remember…
We are allowed to sign players under the age of 30!
Posted by: IlkleyMariner, May 3, 2024, 8:36am; Reply: 290
Thought Odoh was shite with zero end product personally, exactly the same as when he was at Rochdale. On the other hand I thought Derrick Abu who Harrogate had on loan from Southampton and played at right back for them against us a few weeks ago was superb. Doubt there's much chance Southampton would loan him out to League Two again next season but he's definitely one i'd be happy to have here.
Agree on both fronts. Odoh buzzes about and looks tricky but no end product
Posted by: mariner91, May 3, 2024, 9:32am; Reply: 291
But then again, thats the sort of player we habitually sign every year. You would rather hope that the data-led approach would would take in to consideration the injuryproneness of individuals.
We will see how it all pans out soon enough
One thing our team, and particularly the defence, lacked all season was pace. And I would think the data would back that up. I highly doubt Artell looks at our sluggish back line and thinks that what they need to improve is a left back in his mid 30s who’s had injury problems for two seasons.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, May 3, 2024, 9:55am; Reply: 292
But then again, thats the sort of player we habitually sign every year. You would rather hope that the data-led approach would would take in to consideration the injuryproneness of individuals.
We will see how it all pans out soon enough
Artell and Stockwoods & Petits talk about needing to find undervalued players who are that for various reasons. Injury record may be one of them. It certainly looks like that’s the case with Thompson who came he with us being told he only has 75 mins in his legs. He’s proving otherwise despite needing to be handled with care early on. There may well be others who come in with similar circumstances and they are always a gamble but I think the processes we are putting in place reduce that gamble. They will never eliminate it though. There will also be players identified lower down the leagues who have been missed, again that’s a gamble but the Longstaffs and Vardys are out there. What I don’t think we’ll get as much of is those who are gambles on multiple fronts. As you say, we’ll see.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 3, 2024, 10:00am; Reply: 293
I find it hard to believe he'll be coming here based on the fact he's 33, he's been at Cambridge since 2011 and before that was at Bromley. He's clearly a southern lad and I don't see any reason why at the age of 33 he'd uproot his family.
Posted by: ska face, May 3, 2024, 10:25am; Reply: 294
Artell and Stockwoods & Petits talk about needing to find undervalued players who are that for various reasons. Injury record may be one of them. It certainly looks like that’s the case with Thompson who came he with us being told he only has 75 mins in his legs. He’s proving otherwise despite needing to be handled with care early on. There may well be others who come in with similar circumstances and they are always a gamble but I think the processes we are putting in place reduce that gamble. They will never eliminate it though. There will also be players identified lower down the leagues who have been missed, again that’s a gamble but the Longstaffs and Vardys are out there. What I don’t think we’ll get as much of is those who are gambles on multiple fronts. As you say, we’ll see.
The way Artell spoke I think it will be a real mixture - so if we sign 10 i guess the variables will already be decided in % of what they want to recruit in terms of age range - I guess a certain % will be 'gambles ' in that they are young but have high potential in the Conteh mould , then some in the 25-30 range and a couple or 3 over 30 . Will be interesting .
Posted by: GtfcGarner, May 3, 2024, 11:46am; Reply: 298
I’ve seen Wrexham’s released list and they’ve let go of 3 of their centre-backs.
Tozer who cost them over 200k few seasons back. Hayden who was in the League 2 team of the year when they signed him but seems to be made of biscuits and Tunnicliffe who I don’t admittedly know that much about. Very ruthless.
Luke Young however been the player of the season for them twice and most fans seem genuinely gutted he’s going, probably the fact that he’s a good player filled with players that are L1 quality and they have scope to improve. Wouldn’t mind us going in for someone like that. Over to you agent Shaun.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, May 3, 2024, 12:31pm; Reply: 299
I don’t believe that rumour at all. He’s nearly 34 and has barely played 30 games in the last two seasons.
That's not stopped us in the past.
Posted by: RonMariner, May 4, 2024, 10:30am; Reply: 304
Not really a rumour thread this is it? More a speculation thread about this or that player being out of contract, or who would be nice to have.
We know that the club are pursuing a data lead approach so really the only meaningful rumors should stem either from players being sighted at the club, or from insider information.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 4, 2024, 11:49am; Reply: 305
Not really a rumour thread this is it? More a speculation thread about this or that player being out of contract, or who would be nice to have.
We know that the club are pursuing a data lead approach so really the only meaningful rumors should stem either from players being sighted at the club, or from insider information.
Your first time on a Summer Transfer Rumour thread, Ron? I don’t think any of them have ever contained any rumours…
Posted by: headingly_mariner, May 4, 2024, 1:34pm; Reply: 306
Thought Odoh was shite with zero end product personally, exactly the same as when he was at Rochdale. On the other hand I thought Derrick Abu who Harrogate had on loan from Southampton and played at right back for them against us a few weeks ago was superb. Doubt there's much chance Southampton would loan him out to League Two again next season but he's definitely one i'd be happy to have here.
Probably the best player we've played against this season that Abu. He'll be playing a lot higher up.
Posted by: tashee69, May 4, 2024, 5:27pm; Reply: 307
I’d love us to take a chance on Jimmy Knowles. 18 in 38 for Boston. 6ft and only 22 years old.
Just watching him in the playoff final. He had a good game and got MoM. Apparently he’d not scored in the previous 7 games. Quite liked their keeper, Gregory too.
Posted by: kevikov, May 4, 2024, 7:26pm; Reply: 308
Not really a rumour thread this is it? More a speculation thread about this or that player being out of contract, or who would be nice to have.
We know that the club are pursuing a data lead approach so really the only meaningful rumors should stem either from players being sighted at the club, or from insider information.
Just you wait another four - five weeks Ron, then you’ll start seeing “In coming” and we can all start pretending we know a signing is about to be announced. It’s ace!!!
Posted by: RonMariner, May 5, 2024, 12:55pm; Reply: 309
Well as this is a speculation thread I will offer this.
Paul Ward at Derby is into data. He assembled the squad that got them promoted on a shoestring. He has now stated that this squad is not good enough for the Championship as is going to be disassembled.
So there will be several good players available. We could do worse than look at some of them, providing they meet our data criteria.
It’s is through another good example of the use of data analytics.
Posted by: grimsby pete, May 5, 2024, 2:43pm; Reply: 310
Just watching him in the playoff final. He had a good game and got MoM. Apparently he’d not scored in the previous 7 games. Quite liked their keeper, Gregory too.
I liked their keeper too maybe we should put in a cheeky bid.
The last keeper we got from them did all right for us.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 5, 2024, 2:45pm; Reply: 311
Since then he was pivotal in winning promotion for us, has just won player of the year for a team in league one and is reportedly interesting a few championship clubs. Football is mental!
Posted by: livosnose, May 5, 2024, 6:42pm; Reply: 316
Met Andy Peyton and Dane Whitehouse in Magaluf in 1997 . Complete helmet
Posted by: rancido, May 6, 2024, 7:36am; Reply: 317
DA's interview about the retained list and summer recruitment made for interesting listening. He fully explained how a data lead selection process was a strong indicator as to the suitability of a player but other factors also came into play in a final decision. It's obviously not just a " spread sheet" approach but includes a human approach as well.
Posted by: GollyGTFC, May 6, 2024, 8:08am; Reply: 318
Obviously that makes me a 76 year old helmet then. More like a pith helmet, actually lol
Posted by: acko338, May 6, 2024, 7:13pm; Reply: 320
Tahvon Campbell - Solihull Moors and Wealdstone forward -27 - powerful front man - physical presence, and plenty of pace, certainly worried our back 4 when he last played against us.
Foil or cover for Rose up front?
Just one that I thought could go higher when seen.
Posted by: mariner91, May 6, 2024, 7:47pm; Reply: 321
Tahvon Campbell - Solihull Moors and Wealdstone forward -27 - powerful front man - physical presence, and plenty of pace, certainly worried our back 4 when he last played against us.
Foil or cover for Rose up front?
Just one that I thought could go higher when seen.
Can't have worried them that much as they didn't score.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, May 6, 2024, 7:57pm; Reply: 322
Hippolyte, Madden and Croasdale released by Stockport. Madden probably on big money but both of the others would improve us.
Posted by: mariner91, May 6, 2024, 8:05pm; Reply: 323
Posted by: BulkyMariner, May 6, 2024, 10:03pm; Reply: 329
Think rumours will be harder to come by.
A data-led approach combined with looking in foreign markets will mean most players we won't have heard or be aware of. Like when Brighton and Brentford were on their journey, most players they signed were complete mysteries.
Most players mentioned so far are those that most lower league fans will have some knowledge of, I really don't think the choice of transfer strategy will lead us down that path. We'll be trying to attract the next Conteh (on the up with potential of a decent sell on) not the already well-known lower leaguers.
Imo I don't think any former players, or players Artell has previously worked with will be signed.
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, May 6, 2024, 10:51pm; Reply: 330
I think that we should arrange for posters to stakeout individual petrol stations in the area.
Posted by: louth_in_the_south, May 7, 2024, 12:54am; Reply: 331
The type of signings we’re looking at will only drive electric cars so petrol stations are a waste of time .
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, May 7, 2024, 1:28am; Reply: 332
Well as this is a speculation thread I will offer this.
Paul Ward at Derby is into data. He assembled the squad that got them promoted on a shoestring. He has now stated that this squad is not good enough for the Championship as is going to be disassembled.
So there will be several good players available. We could do worse than look at some of them, providing they meet our data criteria.
It’s is through another good example of the use of data analytics.
I’m assuming (given my very limited knowledge of how clubs analyse player data) that a key metric would be around ‘ability to make the step up a league? Would that make Derby’s use of data excellent for short term gain, but limited in long term viability, given one promotion means they now have to start over as the manager doesn’t feel the squad is good enough to compete a division higher? Doesn’t seem like a particularly sustainable model Or have I got the complete bottom end of the stick here?!
Posted by: acko338, May 7, 2024, 3:55am; Reply: 333
Does all of the new data show players who have ability / potential to mature and progress into "league above " players?
I would then expect to see at least 3 to 4 signings that would shine in League 2, with oitential to be a spine going forward if promoted.
Conteh was never going to stay here for long, but was good financial business for Town, while showing how good possession under pressure, and an abilitybyo make a simple accurate pass can tighten up a defence.
I would have liked to have seen him alongside the new fit Thompson.
So... will this data driven outlook find more Conteh style players and take a chance on them?
Posted by: acko338, May 7, 2024, 3:57am; Reply: 334
Does all of the new data show players who have ability / potential to mature and progress into "league above " players?
I would then expect to see at least 3 to 4 signings that would shine in League 2, with potential to be a spine going forward if promoted.
Conteh was never going to stay here for long, but was good financial business for Town, while showing how good possession under pressure, and an ability to make a simple accurate pass can tighten up a defence.
I would have liked to have seen him alongside the new fit Thompson.
So... will this data driven outlook find more Conteh style players and take a chance on them?
Posted by: mariner2000, May 7, 2024, 7:25am; Reply: 335
Two rumours were mentioned and everyone ignored them ;D ;D
Sass-Davies the man of a 1000 loans
On the subject of staking out pertrol stations - would any of us actually recognise a player we might be after if they asked us directions to the Club Shop???
Posted by: Brisbane Mariner, May 7, 2024, 9:21am; Reply: 336
A new Dave Beasant and new Macca and a new Super Clive would be nice
……meanwhile back on earth
Posted by: RonMariner, May 7, 2024, 9:31am; Reply: 337
I’m assuming (given my very limited knowledge of how clubs analyse player data) that a key metric would be around ‘ability to make the step up a league? Would that make Derby’s use of data excellent for short term gain, but limited in long term viability, given one promotion means they now have to start over as the manager doesn’t feel the squad is good enough to compete a division higher? Doesn’t seem like a particularly sustainable model Or have I got the complete bottom end of the stick here?!
I think they were constrained financially due to past irregularities. I am told that they only paid a fee for one or two players in rebuilding the squad, so they did very well to put together a promotion winning team. However Ward does not feel they would be good enough for the Championship which is a real step up in class. So they will need better players. I am not sure if the financial restrictions will now have eased somewhat.
Posted by: rancido, May 7, 2024, 9:40am; Reply: 338
A data-led approach combined with looking in foreign markets will mean most players we won't have heard or be aware of. Like when Brighton and Brentford were on their journey, most players they signed were complete mysteries.
Most players mentioned so far are those that most lower league fans will have some knowledge of, I really don't think the choice of transfer strategy will lead us down that path. We'll be trying to attract the next Conteh (on the up with potential of a decent sell on) not the already well-known lower leaguers.
Imo I don't think any former players, or players Artell has previously worked with will be signed.
Judging by what DA said in his interview about recruitment, I think we will see a mixture of " old heads" and young "potentials". I wouldn't rule out any players that he hasn't worked with before , it depends if they meet the parameters that we are looking for.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 7, 2024, 10:29am; Reply: 339
I'd love us to make a move for Adelakan but his already decent pedigree is nicely elevated by his form and Donny's run in the last few months. Even if Donny don't make it (which I think they will), he's at least bound back to League One.
The lad who was released alongside Adelakan at Lincoln could be interesting though, TJ Eyoma. Can play right-back or centre-back, certainly would bring a bit more athleticism to our defence. Good pedigree, Under 17 World Cup winner and came through the Academy set-up at Spurs. Was very highly rated at Lincoln but looks like they just outgrew him a bit, would be interested what our lurking Imps fans think of him.
Crucially he was signed, initially on loan, by Lincoln at a time when a certain Joe Hutchinson was in their recruitment team.
Posted by: Poojah, May 7, 2024, 10:56am; Reply: 340
I'd love us to make a move for Adelakan but his already decent pedigree is nicely elevated by his form and Donny's run in the last few months. Even if Donny don't make it (which I think they will), he's at least bound back to League One.
The lad who was released alongside Adelakan at Lincoln could be interesting though, TJ Eyoma. Can play right-back or centre-back, certainly would bring a bit more athleticism to our defence. Good pedigree, Under 17 World Cup winner and came through the Academy set-up at Spurs. Was very highly rated at Lincoln but looks like they just outgrew him a bit, would be interested what our lurking Imps fans think of him.
Crucially he was signed, initially on loan, by Lincoln at a time when a certain Joe Hutchinson was in their recruitment team.
Interesting one Eyoma. Just turned 24, played 100+ games all in League One, in a position we desperately need, with seemingly the right attributes - big, quick etc., and an excellent pedigree.
Of all the suggestions I’ve seen with supposed Town links, Eyoma looks by far the most sensible. You’d imagine he’d fancy another crack at League One, but you never know.
To that end, can we forget about Billy Sass-Davies, who yes, was at Crewe under Artell, but has just spent last season getting relegated from the National League with Boreham Wood. If the data says he improves us, then I dread to think what it must say about his teammates alongside him. That one surely won’t be happening.
Posted by: Hagrid, May 7, 2024, 11:17am; Reply: 341
The Lincoln Right Back has been in out and injured FYI
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 7, 2024, 12:00pm; Reply: 342
The Lincoln Right Back has been in out and injured FYI
Eyoma? In all but 3 of their matchday squads this season.
Lincoln's defence has been excellent under Skubala, in fact since he joined them their defence was the best in League One. I wouldn't be concerned that Eyoma wasn't able to make that starting eleven.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 7, 2024, 12:01pm; Reply: 343
Of all the suggestions I’ve seen with supposed Town links, Eyoma looks by far the most sensible. You’d imagine he’d fancy another crack at League One, but you never know.
Hand on heart I think he's out of our league and possibly wage structure. Certainly he won't be short of suitors. It was more the Hutchinson link than anything that flagged up for me. One I bet is on our radar but with a big 'if only' asterix next to his name.
Posted by: Corkyefes, May 7, 2024, 12:09pm; Reply: 344
I know he will probably go to Doncaster. but I would go all out to get Adelekun as he has ben released by Lincoln.He tore us apart.
Lets be realistic...
16 goal contributions, with 9 being goals, in 19 games for Doncaster.
He'll either end up in League One, our someone at the top end of our league, who will spend money. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back at Donny whatever league they're in.
We need to be looking at players in the level below, that wont cost major money but has the chance to be the next Langstaff.
Posted by: friskneymariner, May 7, 2024, 1:08pm; Reply: 345
16 goal contributions, with 9 being goals, in 19 games for Doncaster.
He'll either end up in League One, our someone at the top end of our league, who will spend money. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back at Donny whatever league they're in.
We need to be looking at players in the level below, that wont cost major money but has the chance to be the next Langstaff.
That is exactly the attitude,why we are where we are.
Posted by: Mappers, May 7, 2024, 1:23pm; Reply: 346
The issue with recruiting NL players is it seems the elite say Rodrigues , Mullin and Langstaff who have all done well at league 1/2 and the difference in quality of very good NL players - I'm thinking of Maher & Green here who although competent at league 2 are hardly top end . I suppose the question is how do you pick up those real gems ?
I suppose Bogle was one from lower who excelled at least for us . But I can't think of any other real elite one's who have kicked on to play very much higher up .
Posted by: acko338, May 7, 2024, 1:39pm; Reply: 347
Vardy was the big miss - Am I right in thinking that £50,000 was a stumbling block for us to get him from Halifax?
Posted by: Poojah, May 7, 2024, 1:47pm; Reply: 348
That is exactly the attitude,why we are where we are.
There’s defeatist attitudes and then there’s basic self-awareness. I’d bucket those comments firmly in the latter category.
Adelakun has been one of if not the best player in League Two in the second-half of the season, and is currently on loan at a side with one foot in the play-off final.
There will almost certainly be League One interest regardless of what Donny do over the next week or so, and the only way a club in our position could tempt a player with those kind of options is by offering a superior financial package, which would mean spending not just slightly but well beyond our means. And we won’t be doing that.
Look, this / last season was a disaster, and almost a catastrophe, but I do believe we’ve moved on from “balance the books at all costs” Fentynomics. Our owners recognise that for a club of our size to be competitive at this level in the modern era means being loss making, and it will be up to them (and any other new investors) to underwrite those losses. That’s a depressing fact, but it’s fact nonetheless.
I’m reasonably confident that we’ll be backed by our biggest pound-for-pound budget for a long time, next season. That was probably true of our budget this season, too, but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment was far too often atrocious. The solution to that however isn’t just spunking a shed load more cash; that kind of thinking isn’t getting Chelsea very far at the minute.
We have to increase the budget, yes, but we also have to spend it much, much smarter. That much is obvious. Do those things successfully in unison and we move forward as a football club.
The approach might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but we now at least appear to have clear direction in terms of a preferred playing style and have built a recruitment system around that. Will the “game model” work? I think that’s anyone’s guess but I can’t help feel that, on balance, having a plan is better than no plan at all. I’m slightly nervous, but more importantly excited, about what this summer, and beyond, has in store for GTFC.
Posted by: Mappers, May 7, 2024, 1:52pm; Reply: 349
There’s defeatist attitudes and then there’s basic self-awareness. I’d bucket those comments firmly in the latter category.
Adelakun has been one of if not the best player in League Two in the second-half of the season, and is currently on loan at a side with one foot in the play-off final.
There will almost certainly be League One interest regardless of what Donny do over the next week or so, and the only way a club in our position could tempt a player with those kind of options is by offering a superior financial package, which would mean spending not just slightly but well beyond our means. And we won’t be doing that.
Look, this / last season was a disaster, and almost a catastrophe, but I do believe we’ve moved on from “balance the books at all costs” Fentynomics. Our owners recognise that for a club of our size to be competitive at this level in the modern era means being loss making. That’s a depressing fact, but it’s fact nonetheless.
I’m reasonably confident that we’ll be backed by our biggest pound-for-pound budget for a long time, next season. That was probably true of our budget this season, too, but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment was far too often atrocious. The solution to that however isn’t just spunking a shed load more cash; that kind of thinking isn’t getting Chelsea very far at the minute.
We have to increase the budget, yes, but we also have to spend it much, much smarter. That much is obvious. Do those things successfully in unison and we move forward as a football club.
The approach might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but we now at least appear to have clear direction in terms of a preferred playing style and have built a recruitment system around that. Will the “game model” work? I think that’s anyone’s guess but I can’t help feel that, on balance, having a plan is better than no plan at all. I’m slightly nervous, but more importantly excited, about what this summer, and beyond, has in store for GTFC.
They seem to be prepared to put in a million or so a season on top of whatever we make 'naturally' I assume the cup run effectively gave them a year off having to put that million odd quid in as shown by the accounts .
I'm excited about this incoming investment : who , why , amount and how it's going to be used ?
Posted by: ancientmariner54, May 7, 2024, 2:17pm; Reply: 350
That is exactly the attitude,why we are where we are.
And that is exactly the attitude of why football is in the excrement state that its in . Throwing money at something doesn't guarantee success. A good manager and scouting system are the only tools that 90% of football clubs can use . I imagine you watch too much Premiershite. U.T.M.
Posted by: rancido, May 7, 2024, 2:28pm; Reply: 351
There’s defeatist attitudes and then there’s basic self-awareness. I’d bucket those comments firmly in the latter category.
Adelakun has been one of if not the best player in League Two in the second-half of the season, and is currently on loan at a side with one foot in the play-off final.
There will almost certainly be League One interest regardless of what Donny do over the next week or so, and the only way a club in our position could tempt a player with those kind of options is by offering a superior financial package, which would mean spending not just slightly but well beyond our means. And we won’t be doing that.
Look, this / last season was a disaster, and almost a catastrophe, but I do believe we’ve moved on from “balance the books at all costs” Fentynomics. Our owners recognise that for a club of our size to be competitive at this level in the modern era means being loss making, and it will be up to them (and any other new investors) to underwrite those losses. That’s a depressing fact, but it’s fact nonetheless.
I’m reasonably confident that we’ll be backed by our biggest pound-for-pound budget for a long time, next season. That was probably true of our budget this season, too, but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment was far too often atrocious. The solution to that however isn’t just spunking a shed load more cash; that kind of thinking isn’t getting Chelsea very far at the minute.
We have to increase the budget, yes, but we also have to spend it much, much smarter. That much is obvious. Do those things successfully in unison and we move forward as a football club.
The approach might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but we now at least appear to have clear direction in terms of a preferred playing style and have built a recruitment system around that. Will the “game model” work? I think that’s anyone’s guess but I can’t help feel that, on balance, having a plan is better than no plan at all. I’m slightly nervous, but more importantly excited, about what this summer, and beyond, has in store for GTFC.
We certainly have to spend the budget wisely and how to balance that with quality in the right areas is the acid-test. DA implied that we need 11 or 12 new additions but how that is composed is the issue. Do we go for 4 or 5 quality, well-paid players in key areas and balance that with steady Lg 2 regulars plus one or two young "potentials"? It's this situation that reminds me of when I first started seriously watching town 1965/66 season. We were in Div 3 and, due to economic reasons, dispensed with a reserve team. For most of the time the team was picked from only a core of 15 players and one of those changes was when our regular keeper, Charlie Wright left with 40 league and cup appearances , to be replaced by Harry Wainman. In spite of squad size limitations we reached R4 of the FA Cup ( beating Barnsley and Portsmouth along the way) to finally succumbing to Manchester City. We also reached R5 of the League Cup, going out to West Ham away in a replay after drawing 2-2 at BP. The West Ham side featured Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst and Martin Peters and we played 17 year old debutant Angus Davison because of an injury to Bobby Ross. That season we finished a creditable 11th. Admittedly well were reasonably lucky with injuries but it still demonstrates that you can perform very well with a small , quality squad.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 7, 2024, 2:30pm; Reply: 352
When we first dropped into the Conference back in 2010 I was firmly of the belief that there was minimal difference between the fifth and fourth tiers, the facts that so few clubs steamed through League Two after promotion into that league and the lack of clubs jumping straight back at the first time of asking (weren't we the first ones to do it back in 2022 since Lincoln in the mid 80's?) seemed to back that up.
But there's a definite gulf between those at the top end of the Conference and the rest of that league. One which is growing all the time. I used to think you could swop the top 12 in the Conference with the bottom 12 of League Two and see little to no weaknesses. I think that swop is probably down to the top 3 and the bottom 3 now. Of course Wrexham have steamed through and Stockport did it in a season more, but they've lobbed some serious cash at it. Chesterfield might do ok next season but I would be willing to be that Bromley won't do anything but struggle next season and that would be the same for any of the other 5, sorry 4, play-off sides.
You've then got any even bigger drop off to the Conference North and South, some of the sides at that level are absolutely shocking. In any of the 3 National League divisions finding a gem is serious case of firstly weeding through the crap but then also that gamble if they can step up. You might have someone who's bagged 25 goals in the Conference, but 24 of those were against cannon fodder in the bottom half of the league. Oxford City conceded nearly 100 goals this season! Dorking finishing above them only shipped 85. Aldershot finished just outside the play-offs yet somehow managed to let 83 in. Even title winning Chesterfield let in 65 goals. There was only one side in the whole league who conceded less than a goal a game (Southend with 45 - points deductions not included they would have reached the play-offs and will be my tip to win the league next season). Paul McCallum got 31 goals last season as the top scorer, he's a decent player and every time he's stepped into League Two he's done ok. Not nearly a goal a game good though, the level below he's always done exceptionally well. Next up Nicke Kabamba with 25 for Barnet, 33 games at League Two with just a single assist to his name. A very steady 1 in 3 in the Conference. 3rd place is someone we know very well and I'll just refer to every other thread on this forum when it comes to Mani Dieseruvwe.
In the National League North you've got a club that conceded 112 goals! In the South one man, Worthing's Ollie Pearce, bagged 42 goals, which is an incredible return. Yet he's 28 and lists Bognor Regis and Midhurst & Easebourne amongst his previous clubs.
He might well be the next Matt Tubbs and go onto move through the levels in the non-league scene at a relatively late age, but probably not.
Going back through the list of top scorers in the National League over the past 11 seasons, there's a definite theme. The likes of Jamie Vardy and Andre Gray who rattle through the leagues, even John Akinde who made the step up with ease, those types are less and less. Andy Cook did well and Paul Mullin too (remembering that Mullin had actually won the League Two golden boot the year before dropping into the Conference) but also ripping up the Conference was Ricky Miller, Dan Holman, Danny Rowe....you won't see their names in League Two lights anytime soon.
The well is dry. Everyone got on it and it's largely exhausted. Going back a bit further, Peterborough got on it early doors and they saw the likes of Aaron McLean, George Boyd, Craig Mackail-Smith...all of those made them a fortune, but that was nearly 20 years ago now. Sure there will always be the exceptions, like Langstaff, but I'm not sure it's a path any club will get a great deal of success from. Clubs at the higher levels either don't let players slip through their net at an early age as much, or they hoover them up very early. The route we took with Conteh, to my mind anyway, looks far more beneficial and something we can could carve out a bit of a niche for ourselves with, much like how Peterborough did all those years ago.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, May 7, 2024, 2:39pm; Reply: 353
Well... I can't see Crewe knocking 3 goals in Donnys own back yard.
Charlie Kirks short term deal will end. I wonder if Artell will come back in for him, I guess more chance of him coming here this time, seen as we all start from scratch. (Confused)
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, May 7, 2024, 2:48pm; Reply: 354
Lee Gregory (35) released by Sheff Wed after not playing all season. Pretty sure we were linked at the end of last season? He’ll probably end up at League 1 but I’d be well chuffed if we offered him a deal!
Posted by: Mappers, May 7, 2024, 3:09pm; Reply: 355
When we first dropped into the Conference back in 2010 I was firmly of the belief that there was minimal difference between the fifth and fourth tiers, the facts that so few clubs steamed through League Two after promotion into that league and the lack of clubs jumping straight back at the first time of asking (weren't we the first ones to do it back in 2022 since Lincoln in the mid 80's?) seemed to back that up.
But there's a definite gulf between those at the top end of the Conference and the rest of that league. One which is growing all the time. I used to think you could swop the top 12 in the Conference with the bottom 12 of League Two and see little to no weaknesses. I think that swop is probably down to the top 3 and the bottom 3 now. Of course Wrexham have steamed through and Stockport did it in a season more, but they've lobbed some serious cash at it. Chesterfield might do ok next season but I would be willing to be that Bromley won't do anything but struggle next season and that would be the same for any of the other 5, sorry 4, play-off sides.
You've then got any even bigger drop off to the Conference North and South, some of the sides at that level are absolutely shocking. In any of the 3 National League divisions finding a gem is serious case of firstly weeding through the crap but then also that gamble if they can step up. You might have someone who's bagged 25 goals in the Conference, but 24 of those were against cannon fodder in the bottom half of the league. Oxford City conceded nearly 100 goals this season! Dorking finishing above them only shipped 85. Aldershot finished just outside the play-offs yet somehow managed to let 83 in. Even title winning Chesterfield let in 65 goals. There was only one side in the whole league who conceded less than a goal a game (Southend with 45 - points deductions not included they would have reached the play-offs and will be my tip to win the league next season). Paul McCallum got 31 goals last season as the top scorer, he's a decent player and every time he's stepped into League Two he's done ok. Not nearly a goal a game good though, the level below he's always done exceptionally well. Next up Nicke Kabamba with 25 for Barnet, 33 games at League Two with just a single assist to his name. A very steady 1 in 3 in the Conference. 3rd place is someone we know very well and I'll just refer to every other thread on this forum when it comes to Mani Dieseruvwe.
In the National League North you've got a club that conceded 112 goals! In the South one man, Worthing's Ollie Pearce, bagged 42 goals, which is an incredible return. Yet he's 28 and lists Bognor Regis and Midhurst & Easebourne amongst his previous clubs.
He might well be the next Matt Tubbs and go onto move through the levels in the non-league scene at a relatively late age, but probably not.
Going back through the list of top scorers in the National League over the past 11 seasons, there's a definite theme. The likes of Jamie Vardy and Andre Gray who rattle through the leagues, even John Akinde who made the step up with ease, those types are less and less. Andy Cook did well and Paul Mullin too (remembering that Mullin had actually won the League Two golden boot the year before dropping into the Conference) but also ripping up the Conference was Ricky Miller, Dan Holman, Danny Rowe....you won't see their names in League Two lights anytime soon.
The well is dry. Everyone got on it and it's largely exhausted. Going back a bit further, Peterborough got on it early doors and they saw the likes of Aaron McLean, George Boyd, Craig Mackail-Smith...all of those made them a fortune, but that was nearly 20 years ago now. Sure there will always be the exceptions, like Langstaff, but I'm not sure it's a path any club will get a great deal of success from. Clubs at the higher levels either don't let players slip through their net at an early age as much, or they hoover them up very early. The route we took with Conteh, to my mind anyway, looks far more beneficial and something we can could carve out a bit of a niche for ourselves with, much like how Peterborough did all those years ago.
Some good points there that I had not really thought about .
Posted by: gtfc_chris, May 7, 2024, 3:27pm; Reply: 356
When we first dropped into the Conference back in 2010 I was firmly of the belief that there was minimal difference between the fifth and fourth tiers, the facts that so few clubs steamed through League Two after promotion into that league and the lack of clubs jumping straight back at the first time of asking (weren't we the first ones to do it back in 2022 since Lincoln in the mid 80's?) seemed to back that up.
But there's a definite gulf between those at the top end of the Conference and the rest of that league. One which is growing all the time. I used to think you could swop the top 12 in the Conference with the bottom 12 of League Two and see little to no weaknesses. I think that swop is probably down to the top 3 and the bottom 3 now. Of course Wrexham have steamed through and Stockport did it in a season more, but they've lobbed some serious cash at it. Chesterfield might do ok next season but I would be willing to be that Bromley won't do anything but struggle next season and that would be the same for any of the other 5, sorry 4, play-off sides.
You've then got any even bigger drop off to the Conference North and South, some of the sides at that level are absolutely shocking. In any of the 3 National League divisions finding a gem is serious case of firstly weeding through the crap but then also that gamble if they can step up. You might have someone who's bagged 25 goals in the Conference, but 24 of those were against cannon fodder in the bottom half of the league. Oxford City conceded nearly 100 goals this season! Dorking finishing above them only shipped 85. Aldershot finished just outside the play-offs yet somehow managed to let 83 in. Even title winning Chesterfield let in 65 goals. There was only one side in the whole league who conceded less than a goal a game (Southend with 45 - points deductions not included they would have reached the play-offs and will be my tip to win the league next season). Paul McCallum got 31 goals last season as the top scorer, he's a decent player and every time he's stepped into League Two he's done ok. Not nearly a goal a game good though, the level below he's always done exceptionally well. Next up Nicke Kabamba with 25 for Barnet, 33 games at League Two with just a single assist to his name. A very steady 1 in 3 in the Conference. 3rd place is someone we know very well and I'll just refer to every other thread on this forum when it comes to Mani Dieseruvwe.
In the National League North you've got a club that conceded 112 goals! In the South one man, Worthing's Ollie Pearce, bagged 42 goals, which is an incredible return. Yet he's 28 and lists Bognor Regis and Midhurst & Easebourne amongst his previous clubs.
He might well be the next Matt Tubbs and go onto move through the levels in the non-league scene at a relatively late age, but probably not.
Going back through the list of top scorers in the National League over the past 11 seasons, there's a definite theme. The likes of Jamie Vardy and Andre Gray who rattle through the leagues, even John Akinde who made the step up with ease, those types are less and less. Andy Cook did well and Paul Mullin too (remembering that Mullin had actually won the League Two golden boot the year before dropping into the Conference) but also ripping up the Conference was Ricky Miller, Dan Holman, Danny Rowe....you won't see their names in League Two lights anytime soon.
The well is dry. Everyone got on it and it's largely exhausted. Going back a bit further, Peterborough got on it early doors and they saw the likes of Aaron McLean, George Boyd, Craig Mackail-Smith...all of those made them a fortune, but that was nearly 20 years ago now. Sure there will always be the exceptions, like Langstaff, but I'm not sure it's a path any club will get a great deal of success from. Clubs at the higher levels either don't let players slip through their net at an early age as much, or they hoover them up very early. The route we took with Conteh, to my mind anyway, looks far more beneficial and something we can could carve out a bit of a niche for ourselves with, much like how Peterborough did all those years ago.
Like and agree with this. The one thing that it fixates on though is goals scored. Granted I know that's a key evidence marker when looking at strikers and what they can do for you, but equally I think the data approach may focus on who displays certain attributes that with the right service, or utilised slightly differently might increase their goals return. We've seen numerous times one way or the other players who come here with poor records that score goals, arrive with good records and do nothing or arrive with poor to reasonable records, do poor with us and then go on to score goals at the next club. Hopefully, regardless of the manner we recruit strikers they come in and do a job for us.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 7, 2024, 3:28pm; Reply: 357
Pretty sure we'll go for someone a bit younger and more athletic in the midfield, especially with Thompson presumably one of the main stays in there. But I definitely wouldn't object to John-Joe O'Toole, just released by Mansfield, in our midfield. Absolute shithouse of a player who always seemed to dominate against us every time we played one of his sides.
Callum Johnson's had a torrid time there with injuries but that's not the way the rest of his career has gone. Always liked the look of him when I've seen him. Another who will have plenty of clubs interested.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 7, 2024, 3:35pm; Reply: 358
Like and agree with this. The one thing that it fixates on though is goals scored. Granted I know that's a key evidence marker when looking at strikers and what they can do for you, but equally I think the data approach may focus on who displays certain attributes that with the right service, or utilised slightly differently might increase their goals return. We've seen numerous times one way or the other players who come here with poor records that score goals, arrive with good records and do nothing or arrive with poor to reasonable records, do poor with us and then go on to score goals at the next club. Hopefully, regardless of the manner we recruit strikers they come in and do a job for us.
Oh absolutely, it was very, very high level analysis - not even attempting to hide from that. On the point of purely goals, Louis Soares is a great example of someone who came here free scoring and then looked like he had won a competition for us. Connor Jennings someone who has done something at most of his clubs, except here. So many variables involved in a player succeeding or not, indeed that definition of success. It was more just a pointing out of how the gap between the two leagues has grown and I think what was previously a good source of talent has nearly dried up altogether. We'll never get to see the data, but be fascinating to know how many non-league players are on Joe Hutchinson's spreadsheet.
Posted by: Oly1987, May 7, 2024, 3:53pm; Reply: 359
seeing as we can only get 2 foreign players in a season (assuming they arent full internationals that qualify to play in England) I think we'll be seeing more players from closer to home than people think. Now that's not to say we won't be looking at places like Northern Ireland/Wales/Scotland as they don't come under the same restriction i think.
Posted by: Madeleymariner, May 7, 2024, 5:07pm; Reply: 360
Well... I can't see Crewe knocking 3 goals in Donnys own back yard.
Charlie Kirks short term deal will end. I wonder if Artell will come back in for him, I guess more chance of him coming here this time, seen as we all start from scratch. (Confused)
He was absolutely annonymous when we won there a few weeks ago. :-/
Posted by: ska face, May 7, 2024, 6:00pm; Reply: 361
Rotherham’s released list out. Kayode under contract but made immediately available for transfer. Would’ve been music to my ears 18 months back but think he’s been out injured for almost 2 years now.
Posted by: acko338, May 7, 2024, 8:32pm; Reply: 362
He would have been an instant Hurst signing to do us team a job once fit.
Pre season hard pitches would finish him off for months !!
We certainly have to spend the budget wisely and how to balance that with quality in the right areas is the acid-test. DA implied that we need 11 or 12 new additions but how that is composed is the issue. Do we go for 4 or 5 quality, well-paid players in key areas and balance that with steady Lg 2 regulars plus one or two young "potentials"? It's this situation that reminds me of when I first started seriously watching town 1965/66 season. We were in Div 3 and, due to economic reasons, dispensed with a reserve team. For most of the time the team was picked from only a core of 15 players and one of those changes was when our regular keeper, Charlie Wright left with 40 league and cup appearances , to be replaced by Harry Wainman. In spite of squad size limitations we reached R4 of the FA Cup ( beating Barnsley and Portsmouth along the way) to finally succumbing to Manchester City. We also reached R5 of the League Cup, going out to West Ham away in a replay after drawing 2-2 at BP. The West Ham side featured Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst and Martin Peters and we played 17 year old debutant Angus Davison because of an injury to Bobby Ross. That season we finished a creditable 11th. Admittedly well were reasonably lucky with injuries but it still demonstrates that you can perform very well with a small , quality squad.
The game at BP was very good but what stood out was the quality of the West Ham side. They seldom ran flat out but played accurate passes and although we got a draw the difference was amazing in style etc. I'm sure Trevor Brooking also played and he never broke into a sweat.
Posted by: Oly1987, May 8, 2024, 8:58am; Reply: 364
Found an article mentioning Grimsby and a player though not as a "we are interested" more of a speculation piece. Regan Linney of Altrincham. 42 goals in 33 appearances for FC United of Manchester and 20 in 50 for Altrincham. Had some problems off the pitch (criminal conviction). Honestly I think its nothing but figured it should be mentioned
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 8, 2024, 9:09am; Reply: 365
I think those articles are well written by Chris Kelly and it goes against the grain, quality wise, of a lot of those click-bait type sites.
But I agree it's more a 'this is who is available' type piece than based on any inside knowledge. Chris posts on here sometimes to promote his articles so he might be able to give a bit more?
Still not particularly concerned about our main striking options. In Rose and Wilson, presuming both stay, we've got two good strikers who I'm comfortable in saying if get a fair share of games will both score in the mid teens at worst. It's the supply line that's the issue (bit of back up wouldn't go amiss though as I can't see Pyke staying). Hopefully a fit Vernam and a retained (and fit) Ainley helps with that but certainly need at least one more who can make things happen.
Posted by: marinerjase, May 8, 2024, 10:07am; Reply: 366
There were rumours of a potential/impending court case for Wilson coming up in the future, whether any truth in it or not I don’t know, but it was being banded around prior to end of season. The loan move to Crawley falling through at last min, together with not much game time may have him wanting to look elsewhere? But he did get himself back in contention at end of season tbf. I always thought he made more of an impact coming off bench rather that starting, certainly at beginning of season when he was coming back of another injury, again rumours he’s not the easiest to keep ‘healthy’ , was mentioned by Hurst at the time- he’s definitely got some ability, can finish..for me not sure we saw it enough, nor consistency - and I’d be a bit nonplussed if he stayed or left tbh.
Posted by: Alan Buckley, May 8, 2024, 11:02am; Reply: 367
There were rumours of a potential/impending court case for Wilson coming up in the future, whether any truth in it or not I don’t know, but it was being banded around prior to end of season. The loan move to Crawley falling through at last min, together with not much game time may have him wanting to look elsewhere? But he did get himself back in contention at end of season tbf. I always thought he made more of an impact coming off bench rather that starting, certainly at beginning of season when he was coming back of another injury, again rumours he’s not the easiest to keep ‘healthy’ , was mentioned by Hurst at the time- he’s definitely got some ability, can finish..for me not sure we saw it enough, nor consistency - and I’d be a bit nonplussed if he stayed or left tbh.
You’re absolutely correct with the first part. Don’t be surprised to see him move on and it won’t be for football reasons
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 8, 2024, 11:08am; Reply: 368
What’s the court case about then?
Posted by: Ollie, May 8, 2024, 11:22am; Reply: 369
There were rumours of a potential/impending court case for Wilson coming up in the future, whether any truth in it or not I don’t know, but it was being banded around prior to end of season. The loan move to Crawley falling through at last min, together with not much game time may have him wanting to look elsewhere? But he did get himself back in contention at end of season tbf. I always thought he made more of an impact coming off bench rather that starting, certainly at beginning of season when he was coming back of another injury, again rumours he’s not the easiest to keep ‘healthy’ , was mentioned by Hurst at the time- he’s definitely got some ability, can finish..for me not sure we saw it enough, nor consistency - and I’d be a bit nonplussed if he stayed or left tbh.
This is correct, involves himself and his brother.
Posted by: Alan Buckley, May 8, 2024, 11:27am; Reply: 370
Posted by: GyMariner, May 8, 2024, 3:27pm; Reply: 379
Are Chesterfield an already more attractive proposition than us? Looks that way :-/
Posted by: ska face, May 8, 2024, 3:41pm; Reply: 380
They’re loaded. Will Grigg had 40+ League One appearances before dropping down two divisions to join them last summer. Tom Naylor dropped down from being a regular in the Championship to play for them in the conference. Michael Jacobs dropped from playing 30-odd games in League One at Portsmouth the year before. The keeper came from Everton.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 8, 2024, 3:42pm; Reply: 381
If by more attractive you mean prepared to pay stupid money, then yes. Madden was on notoriously good money at Stockport and after another decent return at this level, he'll still be able to command a very tidy wage.
When we were in the Conference with them they lobbed stupid money at Kabongo Tshimanga, which I think was on the back of the Kirk brothers starting to invest in them. They've put further money in and in the absence of Stockport and Wrexham last season, were definitely the big spenders at their level. Tom Naylor and Will Grigg wouldn't have signed just for the ride.
Fair play to them, local lads who want to give a bit back to their community. But the signings of the likes of Naylor and Grigg came after back-to-back losses in excess of £2million. It's absolutely barking levels of losses for a fifth tier club. Yet it's not exclusive to them at all.
Posted by: CrannyMariner, May 8, 2024, 4:19pm; Reply: 382
Right now this is much more like a Fishy Transfer thread…. And we’re off!
I’d seen on X that he’s been released. Was actually expecting a thread of its own by now.
Posted by: The_Laughing_Mariner, May 8, 2024, 5:39pm; Reply: 385
Solihull?
Posted by: denni266, May 8, 2024, 6:15pm; Reply: 386
He was not interested in coming back here last time so why would he be interested now .Also he is not te player that he used to be So a no from me at the moment
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 8, 2024, 6:24pm; Reply: 387
He was not interested in coming back here last time so why would he be interested now .Also he is not te player that he used to be So a no from me at the moment
I mean he scored 17 the season before the one we’ve just had in a Newport side that struggled, there’s an argument you could make (no more than that) that he’d be a good signing. However he won’t be coming here so that’s largely redundant.
Posted by: Mappers, May 8, 2024, 6:50pm; Reply: 388
Just laughed for a good 5 minutes
Some Scun*s think there is a chance Paddy Madden will 'return home'
No wonder they fell for that Dodgy Dave
Posted by: jamesgtfc, May 8, 2024, 7:43pm; Reply: 389
Stoked by comments on here no doubt. If people are big enough to suggest such rumours they shouldn’t be so snidey as to not say what they are. Otherwise it’s just tittle tattle.
Posted by: davmariner, May 8, 2024, 8:15pm; Reply: 391
Why are people so salty about Bogle? He’s a hero for what he did during the 2016 play-offs. Not to mention him earning us nearly a million quid.
Posted by: The Dogs Testicles, May 8, 2024, 8:40pm; Reply: 392
Couple of seasons ago, I would have snapped your arm off to sign Bogle. Not anymore - he can be so very lazy and that was apparent when we played Newport at the end of the season. Need to move on.
Posted by: crusty ole pie, May 8, 2024, 8:58pm; Reply: 393
Are Chesterfield an already more attractive proposition than us? Looks that way :-/
A club just won their league easily, a very good stadium, so wouldn't surprise me if they had a similar season to Wrexham or a club that struggled to stay in the EFL?
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, May 8, 2024, 11:59pm; Reply: 396
I'm sure Bogle would prefer a league club still over dropping into the National League, even though its in his own back yard so to speak, who knows....
The thought of singing that 2 Unlimited song would be quite pleasing, especially if the magic of Blundell Park gets his golden boot shining once more lol.
🎶🎶 Omar, Omar Omar, Omar Omar Bogle 🎶🎶
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, May 9, 2024, 6:09am; Reply: 399
Are Chesterfield an already more attractive proposition than us? Looks that way :-/
Well I don’t know where Paddy Madden lives but moving from Stockport to Chesterfield is about 35 miles, if he doesn’t want to uproot his family and the money is right it’s a no brainer.
Posted by: Mappers, May 9, 2024, 8:10am; Reply: 400
Have they got someone pumping money in? Could be worth a few quid to go up again with money and a very good manager in Paul Cook!
A bit a couple of wealthy local brothers in charge - not to the extreme of Wrexham and Stockport but a couple of million a season by the looks of it. They get decent gates now tbf averaged nearly 8k last season . Low away allocation of around 900 though for anyone chasing that awayday might be a difficult 1 . At least they should be one of the few to fill the BP away end with the potential of Donny going it will be even less times than last season . Maybe Chesterfield only ? Bradford didn't manage it did they . Maybe just Notts & Chesterfield possibly will be even more games with tiny away followings as can't imagine Bromley , Cheltenham and Fleetwood will bring many
Posted by: MaccasBoots, May 9, 2024, 8:01pm; Reply: 406
Latest rumour seems to be Casey Pettit from Maidenhead. Young defensive midfielder, was previously at Luton. Seems to be highly rated. Maybe a partner for Thompson?
Posted by: mariner2000, May 9, 2024, 8:02pm; Reply: 407
Latest rumour seems to be Casey Pettit from Maidenhead. Young defensive midfielder, was previously at Luton. Seems to be highly rated. Maybe a partner for Thompson?
Yeah saw that on X earlier. I think he was Luton's U21 captain.
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Posted by: Mappers, May 9, 2024, 9:18pm; Reply: 409
That OlyDave is very rarely right . So I doubt that's a solid rumour tbh
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 9, 2024, 9:39pm; Reply: 410
Club are in talks with Casey Petit, Oly nabbed it off someone else.
Posted by: Mappers, May 9, 2024, 9:58pm; Reply: 411
Believe you local so maybe he's got one right . Is there any truth in that giant keeper from Carlisle he's on about ?
Posted by: Poojah, May 9, 2024, 10:07pm; Reply: 412
Club are in talks with Casey Petit, Oly nabbed it off someone else.
Supporters POTY at Maidenhead (finished 14th in the National League, same position as Conteh’s Gateshead the season before). 21 years-old. Pronounced Pet-ee, apparently. That’s all I can tell you.
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Posted by: ska face, May 9, 2024, 10:16pm; Reply: 413
Supporters POTY at Maidenhead (finished 14th in the National League, same position as Conteh’s Gateshead the season before). 21 years-old. Pronounced Pet-ee, apparently. That’s all I can tell you.
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Would make sense ......... he could bring his old kit with him.
Posted by: Alan Buckley, May 9, 2024, 10:47pm; Reply: 415
That olydave just takes other people’s info and then puts it on twitter 😂
Also the Egyptian link came from January when I said we was after our own Egyptian king which is a pharaoh because we was and are still after a Faroese midfielder.
Once again olydave proclaimed on twitter a few weeks ago we was still in talks with an Egyptian midfielder. There is and never was an Egyptian midfielder 😂 He’s an absolute chancer and took the bait 100% 😂
Posted by: kamakazebear, May 9, 2024, 10:54pm; Reply: 416
That olydave just takes other people’s info and then puts it on twitter 😂
Also the Egyptian link came from January when I said we was after our own Egyptian king which is a pharaoh because we was and are still after a Faroese midfielder.
Once again olydave proclaimed on twitter a few weeks ago we was still in talks with an Egyptian midfielder. There is and never was an Egyptian midfielder 😂 He’s an absolute chancer and took the bait 100% 😂
He's only started appearing on my Twitter feed these last couple of weeks so had no idea what to think of him. I'll ignore everything he posts then
Posted by: Alan Buckley, May 9, 2024, 10:58pm; Reply: 417
He's only started appearing on my Twitter feed these last couple of weeks so had no idea what to think of him. I'll ignore everything he posts then
Some things he posts will be true because it’s second hand info. He hasn’t posted anything I haven’t seen or been told by someone else prior. Like I say he’s a chancer.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, May 10, 2024, 6:27am; Reply: 418
Also the Egyptian link came from January when I said we was after our own Egyptian king which is a pharaoh because we was and are still after a Faroese midfielder.
There's a hell of a lot more, I'm just assuming it's someone who has some international experience with abit more about them?
Posted by: Chrisblor, May 10, 2024, 11:54am; Reply: 419
Think this guy is more likely considering he's younger, looks like a player comfortable on the ball and is currently playing in Ireland, a beloved scouting destination of our head of recruitment - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Radosavljevic
Posted by: Poojah, May 10, 2024, 12:01pm; Reply: 420
Think this guy is more likely considering he's younger, looks like a player comfortable on the ball and is currently playing in Ireland, a beloved scouting destination of our head of recruitment - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Radosavljevic
That’s an interesting find. Here’s his highlights reel. I still couldn’t tell you anything about his style of play as I was too distracted by the hilarious custom soundtrack. Lordy Lord, who thought that was a good idea!?
Posted by: grassbandits, May 10, 2024, 12:52pm; Reply: 421
Under negotiation currently but Jordan Wright [GK] Lincoln looking to be completed next week.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 10, 2024, 1:05pm; Reply: 422
That’s an interesting find. Here’s his highlights reel. I still couldn’t tell you anything about his style of play as I was too distracted by the hilarious custom soundtrack. Lordy Lord, who thought that was a good idea!?
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 10, 2024, 1:30pm; Reply: 423
That'll be a very positive signing. Well thought of at Lincoln and only the impressive form of Jensen has stopped him making more appearances.
Can’t profess to know much about him, but if it were to happen I’d be ever so slightly concerned that he’d be the third consecutive ‘keeper who’s played fewer than 25 EFL games. Can’t help but feel we’re crying out for some experience in that area (and yes, I do remember Nick Colgan).
Posted by: RichMariner, May 10, 2024, 2:10pm; Reply: 425
Worth remembering that Max Crocombe had been floating around for a good while, with only a dozen (if that) EFL appearances before we signed him... albeit in the NL, as a back-up.
He went on to establish himself as our first choice and looked okay in L2. He's since looked a bit better in L1, so who knows what keepers are capable of?!
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 10, 2024, 2:30pm; Reply: 426
Aye, Aidan Davison had just over 100 appearances under his belt when he joined as a 29-year-old in 1997.
Colgan was 7 years older when he joined yet only had 250ish appearances under his belt, which really isn't a lot at 36.
Danny Coyne had just over 100 when he joined just short of his 27th birthday. At the age of 25 he wasn't too dissimilar to Wright in appearances made. If, big if, Wright joins and spends is first choice until he's 27, he's there or thereabouts in appearances.
I get what you're saying though, I'll always go back to the Dave Beasant factor of the impact a commanding and experienced 'keeper has on a defence, lesser extent Steve Mildenhall (also a 100ish appearances by 26/27). Even a Wayne Henderson (another around the 100 mark when joining us, albeit on loan, in his mid-late 20's....this needs linking to the daylight hours thread).
I think the arguable difference with Wright though is that he has been far, far closer to the Lincoln team than either Eastwood or Cartwright were/are to the Sheff Utd and Hull teams respectively.
Pure coincidence but a Lincoln fan I often speak to suggested Wright a couple of weeks back to me, not as a bit of intel but more of a 'well he would be good for you' type conversation. I didn't think anything of it but I've messaged him this afternoon (on the back of the above) and apparently Wright is set to leave. Came in for an appearance later in the season when Jensen picked up a warm up injury and played really well, but straight back to the bench for then next game. Cemented in his head the need to get away for first team football.
Posted by: grassbandits, May 10, 2024, 7:01pm; Reply: 427
Pure coincidence but a Lincoln fan I often speak to suggested Wright a couple of weeks back to me, not as a bit of intel but more of a 'well he would be good for you' type conversation. I didn't think anything of it but I've messaged him this afternoon (on the back of the above) and apparently Wright is set to leave. Came in for an appearance later in the season when Jensen picked up a warm up injury and played really well, but straight back to the bench for then next game. Cemented in his head the need to get away for first team football.
100%, I think he’d be a great fit. Just got to hope no better offers but I understand we’re the front runners.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 10, 2024, 7:29pm; Reply: 428
Under negotiation currently but Jordan Wright [GK] Lincoln looking to be completed next week.
This is definitely correct been told the same this afternoon by a friend who works part time for Lincoln and we are also after Mandroiu their midfield player but we are in competition with Notts County for him.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, May 10, 2024, 8:17pm; Reply: 429
France striker Kylian Mbappe says he will leave Paris St-Germain at the end of the season.
Mbappe, 25, announced the decision to leave PSG in a video released on his social media accounts.
"I’ve always said that I would speak with you when the time comes," Mbappe said.
"It's my last year at Paris St-Germain. I will not extend and the adventure will come to an end in a few weeks."
Mbappe's contract with PSG expires in June and BBC Sport reported in February that he has agreed a deal to join Grimsby Town in the summer.
I don't suppose anybody does take them too seriously, but the number of world class players we have signed on the strength of seeing umpteen similar fantastic showreels is precisely zero.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 10, 2024, 9:09pm; Reply: 431
This is definitely correct been told the same this afternoon by a friend who works part time for Lincoln and we are also after Mandroiu their midfield player but we are in competition with Notts County for him.
What's this Lincoln keeper like with his feet? Given we are likely to return to at least Artellball-lite next season...
Think this guy is more likely considering he's younger, looks like a player comfortable on the ball and is currently playing in Ireland, a beloved scouting destination of our head of recruitment - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Radosavljevic
Radosavljevic whoaa Radosavljevic whoaa He was born in Serbia He’ll flipping murder ya!
It doesn’t scan but that won’t stop the Pontoon.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 10, 2024, 11:12pm; Reply: 434
What's this Lincoln keeper like with his feet? Given we are likely to return to at least Artellball-lite next season...
Must admit I didn’t ask him but he said he would be an excellent signing for us, and as said by other posters, he’s definitely leaving Lincoln this summer.
Posted by: David Frazer, May 11, 2024, 1:22pm; Reply: 435
Wright is an excellent,solid keeper ,ok with his feet and saves penalties ( just ask Sheff United !!!) has a contract till 2025 i believe .He may even have an extra year option on top of that! If true he wont let you down! been very unlucky with our keepers -jensen,palmer,rushworth and somebody else.
He will cost you a fee no doubt.
Mandroiu,interesting out of contract this summer and we are still in negoitations! Because he cost only about 30k he is rumoured to be on a large contract,so i wonder if your prepared to pay a large wage!?! Ive no idea what he is on.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, May 11, 2024, 1:36pm; Reply: 436
Also the Egyptian link came from January when I said we was after our own Egyptian king which is a pharaoh because we was and are still after a Faroese midfielder.
Think this guy is more likely considering he's younger, looks like a player comfortable on the ball and is currently playing in Ireland, a beloved scouting destination of our head of recruitment - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Radosavljevic
I think you could be right there. Radosavljevic played in the national team upto 2023. If this is correct he's the closest of international players from the Faroe Islands who have played over the last year or so.
His brother used to be a ref in the Louth area. Reffed a few games I played in. Think it is Andy?
If you’re talking about Bernie’s brother his name is Tony and he lived in Normanby by Spital village about five miles from Market Rasen where they grew up. Played against Tony at football and cricket, he played for Owmby, when we were all much younger but he was never a referee to my knowledge.
Posted by: IlkleyMariner, May 12, 2024, 4:10pm; Reply: 445
If you’re talking about Bernie’s brother his name is Tony and he lived in Normanby by Spital village about five miles from Market Rasen where they grew up. Played against Tony at football and cricket, he played for Owmby, when we were all much younger but he was never a referee to my knowledge.
Yes, correct on name, Tony and where they grew up. There was a younger brother too. Don’t know if he was a ref.
Posted by: Mayaman, May 12, 2024, 6:06pm; Reply: 446
Doesn’t have a Passport - Tes, that could be problematic! Is this the Egyptian King (Faroese) player that was mentioned during the last window?
Given the obscurity of his league of trade, there’s very little information available about this bloke. However, according to Football Manaher he’s currently better than anyone currently or recently on our books with far greater potential. Given Football Manager’s never been wrong about any young prospect, ever, so that’s good enough for me if we are indeed in for this chap.
See on X suggestion that we are in the mix for Laurence Maguire from Chesterfield, Crawley I'm sure are front runners for him.
I almost forgot all about the random Twitter accounts - EFL Hub, Ex-Agent, EFL TRANZFERZ07 etc etc that are about this time of year. Not sure they've ever called anything right and are purely there to gain followers and likes. See they mentioned Sam Clucas as well...
Posted by: forza ivano, May 13, 2024, 6:06pm; Reply: 464
I almost forgot all about the random Twitter accounts - EFL Hub, Ex-Agent, EFL TRANZFERZ07 etc etc that are about this time of year. Not sure they've ever called anything right and are purely there to gain followers and likes. See they mentioned Sam Clucas as well...
wasn't Clucas a previous target/rumour?
Posted by: Oggyfish, May 13, 2024, 8:34pm; Reply: 465
Sorry not sure if anything has been mentioned, only I was told that Andy Smith was departing Hull and keen to join the Mariners. Enjoyed his time here and was happy to continue living in Hull.
Posted by: GollyGTFC, May 13, 2024, 8:39pm; Reply: 466
Sorry not sure if anything has been mentioned, only I was told that Andy Smith was departing Hull and keen to join the Mariners. Enjoyed his time here and was happy to continue living in Hull.
He signed a new contract at Hull in October. The deal is until June 2026 with the club having an option for a further year.
Can’t imagine there’s any truth in it.
Posted by: Poojah, May 13, 2024, 8:51pm; Reply: 467
Yeah, clearly a load of horse shít that one. No one would be happy to continue living in Hull.
Posted by: mariner2000, May 13, 2024, 9:09pm; Reply: 468
He signed a new contract at Hull in October. The deal is until June 2026 with the club having an option for a further year.
Can’t imagine there’s any truth in it.
I doubt it too BUT Ull are overstocked with players and will want to offload a fair few with a new manager coming in. Imagine they'd want a small fee though
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, May 13, 2024, 9:47pm; Reply: 469
Sorry not sure if anything has been mentioned, only I was told that Andy Smith was departing Hull and keen to join the Mariners. Enjoyed his time here and was happy to continue living in Hull.
But if he doesnt score highly in the new-fangled data-led search then he wont be coming. He is yet another player who has played well for us in the past who will regularly be mentioned as a (unlikely) possible player we could be in for.
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, May 14, 2024, 12:02am; Reply: 470
But if he doesnt score highly in the new-fangled data-led search then he wont be coming. He is yet another player who has played well for us in the past who will regularly be mentioned as a (unlikely) possible player we could be in for.
Assuming this is somewhat a little tongue in cheek, but I can think of many metrics that Smith wouldn’t score well in, when thinking of the kind of attributes Artell would be looking for in a new centre half! He’s fairly quick, progressive through the transition, confident with the ball on the deck, strong in the air and on the ground and can pick a pass. If he would come here he’d be a fantastic, potentially long term CB partner for Tharme and would immediately make us much more solid at the back.
Would he come though and would Ull let him go - they are the questions!
Anyone know how he performed in league 1 last year at Cheltenham?
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 14, 2024, 12:49am; Reply: 471
Anyone know how he performed in league 1 last year at Cheltenham?
Only made 12 appearances in the league. I’d suggest at 22 you’d imagine Hull would be wanting him to be near the first team now, if he’s not been in a team the division below will they really see him as a defender they can rely on in pushing for promotion to the PL? Not sure they would so possible they let him go.
The rest in terms of if it’d be likely he came here I wouldn’t be sure on. We’ve obviously had him here, he enjoyed his time and is local. I’m led to believe we tried in the past to bring him in permanently. How true that is, no idea.
Only made 12 appearances in the league. I’d suggest at 22 you’d imagine Hull would be wanting him to be near the first team now, if he’s not been in a team the division below will they really see him as a defender they can rely on in pushing for promotion to the PL? Not sure they would so possible they let him go.
The rest in terms of if it’d be likely he came here I wouldn’t be sure on. We’ve obviously had him here, he enjoyed his time and is local. I’m led to believe we tried in the past to bring him in permanently. How true that is, no idea.
With a new manager coming in at Hull the opinion of Smith may change, so we may be in with a shout. You never know in football.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 14, 2024, 9:39am; Reply: 473
Clucas was rumoured to have been touted around every club in the local area after his release from Stoke last summer but to say conversations didn't get far would be an understatement. I think the mass touting was just a scatter gun approach from his agent and was always out of our price range.
One of Rotherham's better performers this year, wouldn't surprise me if he ends up at another Championship side next season or at worst an ambitious League One side. Obviously Lincoln will be where most people expect him to end up as his home town.
Posted by: trickeymickey, May 14, 2024, 2:41pm; Reply: 474
In regard to Charlie Kirk and the possibility of him at Grimbo next season: I posted this elsewhere after someone on here noticed that he scored a pen in the shootout against Doncaster.
He was on as a sub and has been since his arrival. Some say "Put him on. He might provide a single spark of brilliance." Others say "He thinks he is to good for this place and winds up opponents whilst trying when he feels like it." He cost the Alex a goal last week because he only ambled after an opponent giving him time to lash the ball into the box. And I think Grimbo pay is more than the Alex. His contract is till end of the season. One Kirk = 2 or 3 Academy Graduates. Crewe regularly release young players who have achieved League standard because there are insufficient funds in the player budget. e.g.Mullarkey.
I obviously dont comment on players that might be useful for The Mariners because I dont think that you would think it appropriate as you are my "second" team. But I hope you aren't offended when I say that I am taken aback at this business of wanting ex players back and suggesting names who wouldnt want to be there. In my experience with The Alex every returning player has been bloody useless with a couple of exceptions. Also famous name players have also been a waste of time except for Neil Franklin - the best centre half ever. Billy Wright wasn't fit to dubbin his boots.
Posted by: Chrisblor, May 14, 2024, 4:53pm; Reply: 475
I can't profess to be particularly knowledgeable about Kirk besides what you can glean from his wikipedia and transfermarkt pages, however I thought he was absolutely male masturbation against us at Gresty Road a few weeks ago. He's obviously got something about him based on his past record, but that showing didn't exactly have me screaming "SIGN HIM UP ARTELL".
Posted by: Mappers, May 14, 2024, 5:03pm; Reply: 476
In regard to Charlie Kirk and the possibility of him at Grimbo next season: I posted this elsewhere after someone on here noticed that he scored a pen in the shootout against Doncaster.
He was on as a sub and has been since his arrival. Some say "Put him on. He might provide a single spark of brilliance." Others say "He thinks he is to good for this place and winds up opponents whilst trying when he feels like it." He cost the Alex a goal last week because he only ambled after an opponent giving him time to lash the ball into the box. And I think Grimbo pay is more than the Alex. His contract is till end of the season. One Kirk = 2 or 3 Academy Graduates. Crewe regularly release young players who have achieved League standard because there are insufficient funds in the player budget. e.g.Mullarkey.
I obviously dont comment on players that might be useful for The Mariners because I dont think that you would think it appropriate as you are my "second" team. But I hope you aren't offended when I say that I am taken aback at this business of wanting ex players back and suggesting names who wouldnt want to be there. In my experience with The Alex every returning player has been bloody useless with a couple of exceptions. Also famous name players have also been a waste of time except for Neil Franklin - the best centre half ever. Billy Wright wasn't fit to dubbin his boots.
Are you making the trek to Wembley mate ?
Posted by: Alan Buckley, May 14, 2024, 5:08pm; Reply: 477
We was Kirk’s first choice in January but we wasn’t keen so unless he lowers his demands I’d not expect him anywhere near the place this summer.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 14, 2024, 6:42pm; Reply: 478
Just listening to Andrew on RH. Did Andrew just say we have a number of players that have signed or on the point of signing?
Posted by: Poojah, May 14, 2024, 6:44pm; Reply: 479
Just listening to Andrew on RH. Did Andrew just say we have a number of players that have signed or on the point of signing?
“A number of players have signed, or are on the point of signing…will be announced in due course”.
No idea if it’s common to have players signed up this early, only to wait to announce them later in the summer, but sounds like we’re cracking on at least.
Posted by: trickeymickey, May 14, 2024, 6:49pm; Reply: 480
I'm afraid not. I was there for the playoff against Brentford that got us into the Championship for the first time (when the Mariners and the Alex were there at the same time) and saw an old man behind me shed a tear. That made me sad because my first pa in law had passed by then but he would have loved it. Now I'm an old man myself. 85 if I make November and I would be making the journey alone as I live some way from Crewe now. I find the logistics of running a small club when the big boys are constantly changing the rules to ensure you remain small fascinating now. I wouldnt want the Alex to have a rich owner. I would feel no sense of fulfillment at promotions then. And as I have said before on here - there's nothing between Town and the Alex because Crewe will lose players at the end of the season and have to recruit because there wont be enough kids coming through. So Grimbo might be where Crewe are and Crewe where Grimbo are this time next year. It was always thus! But Artells signings need to be a bloody sight better than the dross he provided in his last season at Gresty Road.
Posted by: kevikov, May 14, 2024, 7:50pm; Reply: 481
“A number of players have signed, or are on the point of signing…will be announced in due course”.
No idea if it’s common to have players signed up this early, only to wait to announce them later in the summer, but sounds like we’re cracking on at least.
Think we’ve been drip feeding the signings to whip up a season ticket frenzy for years haven’t we?
Posted by: HertsGTFC, May 14, 2024, 8:06pm; Reply: 482
In regard to Charlie Kirk and the possibility of him at Grimbo next season: I posted this elsewhere after someone on here noticed that he scored a pen in the shootout against Doncaster.
He was on as a sub and has been since his arrival. Some say "Put him on. He might provide a single spark of brilliance." Others say "He thinks he is to good for this place and winds up opponents whilst trying when he feels like it." He cost the Alex a goal last week because he only ambled after an opponent giving him time to lash the ball into the box. And I think Grimbo pay is more than the Alex. His contract is till end of the season. One Kirk = 2 or 3 Academy Graduates. Crewe regularly release young players who have achieved League standard because there are insufficient funds in the player budget. e.g.Mullarkey.
I obviously dont comment on players that might be useful for The Mariners because I dont think that you would think it appropriate as you are my "second" team. But I hope you aren't offended when I say that I am taken aback at this business of wanting ex players back and suggesting names who wouldnt want to be there. In my experience with The Alex every returning player has been bloody useless with a couple of exceptions. Also famous name players have also been a waste of time except for Neil Franklin - the best centre half ever. Billy Wright wasn't fit to dubbin his boots.
Neil Franklin didn’t he go & play in South America in the 50s?
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 14, 2024, 10:21pm; Reply: 483
Neil Franklin didn’t he go & play in South America in the 50s?
Yeah he did and as a result the FA banned him from playing for England for life. Amazingly the country he went was Chile who tried to lure a number of top players over there in the 1950’s. Pretty sure Tom Finney covered this in his book and I believe Franklin’s ban helped persuade him to stay at Preston.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, May 14, 2024, 10:38pm; Reply: 484
Yeah he did and as a result the FA banned him from playing for England for life. Amazingly the country he went was Chile who tried to lure a number of top players over there in the 1950’s. Pretty sure Tom Finney covered this in his book and I believe Franklin’s ban helped persuade him to stay at Preston.
Different world now.
Posted by: Abdul19, May 14, 2024, 10:42pm; Reply: 485
Colombia :)
Posted by: trickeymickey, May 14, 2024, 11:50pm; Reply: 486
Neil Franklin didn’t he go & play in South America in the 50s?
Yes he was getting £20 a week in the first division with Stoke (He came from Shelton). He and Frank Mountford were poached to go to Columbia (who were sanctioned by FIFA) for big money. Thy met Charlie Mitten there who had done the same. Neil was first choice England centre half but was so good he could have played any outfield position. His wife was homesick and the place wasnt that attractive and he came home. He was suspended by Stoke and not considered for selection by the FA any more. First division teams wouldnt touch him and he went to Hull.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 15, 2024, 9:32am; Reply: 487
“A number of players have signed, or are on the point of signing…will be announced in due course”.
No idea if it’s common to have players signed up this early, only to wait to announce them later in the summer, but sounds like we’re cracking on at least.
Could be a nod to Hume, Clifton, Ainley and less so Green (who I think we've got the option on as opposed to the other way round). I was told after the Swindon game that those who are staying have already agreed terms and every thing is sorted, didn't say if it was all of those 4 though.
In terms of prep for the summer recruitment, we're probably a bit ahead of expectations because Joe Hutchinson will have had it all laid out last summer. Some adjustments I'm sure but would be interesting to see how many that were recommended last summer end up here this time round.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 15, 2024, 10:10am; Reply: 488
Could be a nod to Hume, Clifton, Ainley and less so Green (who I think we've got the option on as opposed to the other way round). I was told after the Swindon game that those who are staying have already agreed terms and every thing is sorted, didn't say if it was all of those 4 though.
In terms of prep for the summer recruitment, we're probably a bit ahead of expectations because Joe Hutchinson will have had it all laid out last summer. Some adjustments I'm sure but would be interesting to see how many that were recommended last summer end up here this time round.
He mentioned new players are signed, renewals are all but done i'm told.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 15, 2024, 10:43am; Reply: 489
“A number of players have signed, or are on the point of signing…will be announced in due course”.
No idea if it’s common to have players signed up this early, only to wait to announce them later in the summer, but sounds like we’re cracking on at least.
As mentioned above, could be the old season tickets ploy. Maybe it’s because we are keen on other players that would work in the system but don’t want to show our hand too soon, like last year.
Am led to believe that CA has accepted a 1 year deal to stay with us. And that the foreign recruitment is ‘going well’!! Make of that as you will 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
I know one thing though, am looking forward to the new season already. But as we all know, it’s the hope that kills you!
Posted by: GollyGTFC, May 15, 2024, 12:39pm; Reply: 490
As mentioned above, could be the old season tickets ploy. Maybe it’s because we are keen on other players that would work in the system but don’t want to show our hand too soon, like last year.
Am led to believe that CA has accepted a 1 year deal to stay with us. And that the foreign recruitment is ‘going well’!! Make of that as you will 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
I know one thing though, am looking forward to the new season already. But as we all know, it’s the hope that kills you!
Also worth noting that player contracts run until 30th June in the EFL. Any signing we announce wouldn’t technically join the club until 1st July.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 15, 2024, 4:16pm; Reply: 492
Maybe in football, but the RFU ban players from playing for England if they play abroad.
Pretty sure that will have to change in the near future given the financial state of Premiership RU clubs more and more of our elite younger players will be lured to the wealthier French and probably Irish clubs. Not selecting those that choose the foreign clubs is only damaging England and Borthwick will soon demand this be changed.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, May 15, 2024, 5:58pm; Reply: 493
Watch the skies, people.
Private jet from an obscure airport south of Istanbul has just landed at Humberside. Not showing on any arrivals board. IF it has a footballer on board, he will more than likely be going to Hull, with them amassing several there already. Could also be a Manager for them, but there is always the very tiny outside chance of it being one of our 'targets'.
Or it could have sodomist all to do with anything, which is the most likely scenario
Posted by: mariner2000, May 15, 2024, 6:05pm; Reply: 494
Shout for a new left back....Shane Flynn Leicester U23 and former development squad player of the season in 2021
Struggled with an injury that stifled his development, not looked after but his club, fits our model for finding a rough diamond.....
Are you sure its not a clean shaven Danny Amos? Trying to sneak back in?
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 15, 2024, 6:55pm; Reply: 497
Luke Norris (the rubberman!) is set to leave tranmere and join another league 2 club. Wonder if it’ll be him signing for us to link up with Danny rose again
Posted by: kevikov, May 15, 2024, 8:11pm; Reply: 498
Luke Norris (the rubberman!) is set to leave tranmere and join another league 2 club. Wonder if it’ll be him signing for us to link up with Danny rose again
Son of chuck?
Posted by: FrazerGTFC, May 15, 2024, 8:24pm; Reply: 499
Luke Norris (the rubberman!) is set to leave tranmere and join another league 2 club. Wonder if it’ll be him signing for us to link up with Danny rose again
Got a decent goal record to be honest Would prefer a fast striker next to rose to be honest But think artell will go back to 4-3-3
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 15, 2024, 8:25pm; Reply: 500
Every time I hear the name Chuck Norris it reminds me when Anthony Elding (I think) went viral or popular or whatever the young whipper snappers call it these days,
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 15, 2024, 9:47pm; Reply: 501
Every time I hear the name Chuck Norris it reminds me when Anthony Elding (I think) went viral or popular or whatever the young whipper snappers call it these days,
Elding facts!
Posted by: livosnose, May 15, 2024, 11:38pm; Reply: 502
That horrible Lapslie for the Gills up for transfer . Played well against us … didn’t like Thompson !
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 16, 2024, 7:39am; Reply: 503
Joe Sbarra is leaving Solihull Moors on a free, wonder if we are interested? Looks like he has outgrown non-league and is ready for a step up.
Doubt we will be in for players like that , I imagine his wage demands will be high and he's a relative 'name ' player . Genuinely can't see many if any of those coming in tbh . Hopefully the oversees signings go well as I'm assuming we will be using 2 of those with the relaxation of the rules .
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, May 16, 2024, 2:38pm; Reply: 506
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This guy is posting a lot on Twitter. How’s his credibility?
Posted by: Poojah, May 16, 2024, 2:53pm; Reply: 507
Whether he knows something or not, he comes across as a bit of a bell end. At least he had the humility to admit his retained list was inaccurate.
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Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 16, 2024, 2:56pm; Reply: 508
This guy is posting a lot on Twitter. How’s his credibility?
He takes most the stuff off of here, his credibility is based on anything posted on here.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 16, 2024, 3:19pm; Reply: 509
Absolutely no idea on the guys credibility and I'm not one to go down the whole he said this, he said that, name your sources etc etc. path.
But on his 'Irons' pun. We were interested in Fin Shrimpton from Scunny at repeated points under Hurst, but it just never happened. From what I can see it just hasn't clicked for him down the road but a couple of Scunny fans I know think he's still got serious potential. Ended the season with Spennymoor Town on loan and did well apparently, out of contract but offered a new deal by Scunny. As said, we were interested but that interest certainly pre-dated Joe Hutchinson's infamous spreadsheet.
More likely is probably a young West Ham midfielder, going down the Conteh route of Academy prospect, who we pay a fee or in the hope of getting a return on our investment. I've had a quick neb on the dogshite West Ham academy site and the midfielders I can see are either incredibly highly rated like George Earthy, who scored for the first team at the weekend, or have very recently have signed new deals.
All in, I've no idea and I'm absolutely stabbing in the dark. Little Mo from Eastenders it is then, loves an iron.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 16, 2024, 3:44pm; Reply: 510
No idea who he is, didn’t he start the Hunt to Carlisle rumour? Anyway he’s blocked me on Twitter 😂
Not seen mentioned but abit of talk about a potential right back this week, no idea of name but suggestion possibly from overseas? Don’t know if anyone else heard the same?
Posted by: Poojah, May 16, 2024, 3:57pm; Reply: 511
No idea who he is, didn’t he start the Hunt to Carlisle rumour? Anyway he’s blocked me on Twitter 😂
Not seen mentioned but abit of talk about a potential right back this week, no idea of name but suggestion possibly from overseas? Don’t know if anyone else heard the same?
Let me throw a name out there. Rob Hunt, most recently of Leyton Orient.
Posted by: sam gy, May 16, 2024, 4:00pm; Reply: 512
My hot take is that anyone who had real 'credibility' wouldn't be banging on about it on Twitter, and would keep any news to themselves until it was made public.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, May 16, 2024, 4:05pm; Reply: 513
George Earthy is a very fine name btw. Possibly the best since Manny Panther.[tr] [/tr]
Posted by: supertown, May 16, 2024, 4:12pm; Reply: 514
I do it a lot, tbf. I usually just catch it before or shortly after posting. It’s normally when I’m multi-tasking; e.g. posting bóllocks on here while simultaneously doing the work I’m actually paid to do at the same time.
Posted by: marinerjase, May 16, 2024, 4:21pm; Reply: 516
Personally I don’t get what anyone gets out of naming a name, trying to ‘big themselves up’ re transfer dealings..just don’t get it?? Maybe it’s an age thing.. I dunno…🤷♂️ even if whoever it is ends up being correct ..what’s to gain out of it?? Other than wanting attention?
Posted by: mariner91, May 16, 2024, 4:33pm; Reply: 517
Personally I don’t get what anyone gets out of naming a name, trying to ‘big themselves up’ re transfer dealings..just don’t get it?? Maybe it’s an age thing.. I dunno…🤷♂️ even if whoever it is ends up being correct ..what’s to gain out of it?? Other than wanting attention?
Small pen1s maybe? But then mine is tiny and I don't care about seeming in the know.
Posted by: Southwark Mariner, May 16, 2024, 4:40pm; Reply: 518
I do it a lot, tbf. I usually just catch it before or shortly after posting. It’s normally when I’m multi-tasking; e.g. posting bóllocks on here while simultaneously doing the work I’m actually paid to do at the same time.
Well, it's not long til your annual fishy appraisal. I suggest you knuckle down and focus.
Posted by: Meza, May 16, 2024, 5:28pm; Reply: 519
Just noticed this
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Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 16, 2024, 5:44pm; Reply: 520
Am led to believe that CA has accepted a 1 year deal to stay with us. And that the foreign recruitment is ‘going well’!! Make of that as you will 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Could be a nod to Hume, Clifton, Ainley and less so Green (who I think we've got the option on as opposed to the other way round). I was told after the Swindon game that those who are staying have already agreed terms and every thing is sorted
Id love sarcevic for a year.....right big orrible so and so....bossed thompson at BP
5ft9 isn’t he?
Get your sentiment though been a brilliant player in L1/L2 for past years.
Posted by: FrazerGTFC, May 16, 2024, 11:53pm; Reply: 534
I reckon it will be that Pettit but it’s a complete guess
Posted by: immariner, May 17, 2024, 8:52am; Reply: 535
Announced yesterday that striker Kelsey Mooney (son of the bane of GTFC in the 90s, Tommy) is leaving Boston United. In the comments underneath are "coming to Grimsby" and "UTM". Probably just wishful thinking by someine wanting to appear in the know but from the player's own comments about not being able to turn down the opportunity, it would appear he's likely heading to the football league
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, May 17, 2024, 8:57am; Reply: 536
Announced yesterday that striker Kelsey Mooney (son of the bane of GTFC in the 90s, Tommy) is leaving Boston United. In the comments underneath are "coming to Grimsby" and "UTM". Probably just wishful thinking by someine wanting to appear in the know but from the player's own comments about not being able to turn down the opportunity, it would appear he's likely heading to the football league
I’ll be down at the Jakemans later. Will see if I can find out.
Posted by: Mappers, May 17, 2024, 9:08am; Reply: 537
Announced yesterday that striker Kelsey Mooney (son of the bane of GTFC in the 90s, Tommy) is leaving Boston United. In the comments underneath are "coming to Grimsby" and "UTM". Probably just wishful thinking by someine wanting to appear in the know but from the player's own comments about not being able to turn down the opportunity, it would appear he's likely heading to the football league
I didn't realise he was Tommy Mooney's son . I remember the forward line of Mooney and a very young James Milner dominating us about 20 years ago at BP .
Posted by: It Bites, May 17, 2024, 9:24am; Reply: 538
Announced yesterday that striker Kelsey Mooney (son of the bane of GTFC in the 90s, Tommy) is leaving Boston United. In the comments underneath are "coming to Grimsby" and "UTM". Probably just wishful thinking by someine wanting to appear in the know but from the player's own comments about not being able to turn down the opportunity, it would appear he's likely heading to the football league
He’s 25 and just scored 16 in the local league. Hardly exciting
Posted by: Abdul19, May 17, 2024, 9:30am; Reply: 539
I didn't realise he was Tommy Mooney's son . I remember the forward line of Mooney and a very young James Milner dominating us about 20 years ago at BP .
Honestly think Tony Crane accounts for 50% of our 11's weight.
Earlier this week I said about struggling to get my head round how that season went so badly. Thanks, having seen the midfield for that game you've scratched that 20 year itch for me.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, May 17, 2024, 9:57am; Reply: 541
Announced yesterday that striker Kelsey Mooney (son of the bane of GTFC in the 90s, Tommy) is leaving Boston United. In the comments underneath are "coming to Grimsby" and "UTM". Probably just wishful thinking by someine wanting to appear in the know but from the player's own comments about not being able to turn down the opportunity, it would appear he's likely heading to the football league
I'm not sure he's what we need, 7 of his goals came across 4 games when Boston were on fire, but it is a huge step up for a player with no real stand-out attribute.
Danny Elliott is a very prolific striker at that level, where his pace terrifies defenders. He's always failed to take his opportunity when he's stepped up to a full-time league though.
Mooney is 25, played 140 career games, and more than half of the goals scored in his career came last season. It's a huge step up and someone is clearly taking a chance on him, but I don't think he's a League 2 striker.
Posted by: Mappers, May 17, 2024, 10:06am; Reply: 542
I'm not sure he's what we need, 7 of his goals came across 4 games when Boston were on fire, but it is a huge step up for a player with no real stand-out attribute.
Danny Elliott is a very prolific striker at that level, where his pace terrifies defenders. He's always failed to take his opportunity when he's stepped up to a full-time league though.
Mooney is 25, played 140 career games, and more than half of the goals scored in his career came last season. It's a huge step up and someone is clearly taking a chance on him, but I don't think he's a League 2 striker.
That Ollydave has posted it's a done deal on X - another exclusive he say's
Alongside Pettit as his 10am announcement
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, May 17, 2024, 10:09am; Reply: 543
Well its gone 10am and im still waiting.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 17, 2024, 10:12am; Reply: 544
That Ollydave has posted it's a done deal on X - another exclusive he say's
Alongside Pettit as his 10am announcement
Another exclusive that come after someone posted his name on here.... but Mooney isn't signed.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 17, 2024, 10:12am; Reply: 545
I do rather think he just uses things he here's on here and twitter and tries to predict. Heard both those names banded about before. The Hunt to Carlisle thing was pretty funny though.
I don't think its a surprise, following Andrew's comments on RH, that many of us suspect we've resigned the current players and have/close to signing others.
Posted by: forza ivano, May 17, 2024, 10:21am; Reply: 546
I do rather think he just uses things he here's on here and twitter and tries to predict. Heard both those names banded about before. The Hunt to Carlisle thing was pretty funny though.
I don't think its a surprise, following Andrew's comments on RH, that many of us suspect we've resigned the current players and have/close to signing others.
keep me updated Mikey ; I pointed out on Twitter that Pettit's name had been tweeted 2 weeks before he said anything, so I'm now blocked ;D ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Mappers, May 17, 2024, 10:22am; Reply: 547
Earlier this week I said about struggling to get my head round how that season went so badly. Thanks, having seen the midfield for that game you've scratched that 20 year itch for me.
Lightweight would be an understatement .
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 17, 2024, 10:23am; Reply: 548
I do rather think he just uses things he here's on here and twitter and tries to predict. Heard both those names banded about before. The Hunt to Carlisle thing was pretty funny though.
I don't think its a surprise, following Andrew's comments on RH, that many of us suspect we've resigned the current players and have/close to signing others.
Wasn't that another 'exclusive ' ? I'm sure there has been loads lol .
That Carlisle giant keeper aswell
Posted by: Poojah, May 17, 2024, 10:32am; Reply: 550
Wasn't that another 'exclusive ' ? I'm sure there has been loads lol .
That Carlisle giant keeper aswell
I think he’s just another young kid, or at best a young adult with a pre-pubescent penís. We see it every summer without fail. Once they’ve been exposed as complete chancers they usually implode in some sort of sexist / racist mushroom cloud, and then finally pipe down when the old bill get involved.
Just have to let the process run its course.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 17, 2024, 10:34am; Reply: 551
I think he’s just another young kid, or at best a young adult with a pre-pubescent penís. We see it every summer without fail. Once they’ve been exposed as complete chancers they usually implode in some sort of sexist / racist mushroom cloud, and then finally pipe down when the old bill get involved.
Just have to let the process run its course.
He's got 96 in his name which would make him 27/28, strange behaviour for someone of that age
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, May 17, 2024, 10:36am; Reply: 552
He's got 96 in his name which would make him 27/28, strange behaviour for someone of that age
Isn’t that what loads of Liverpool supporters do as well?
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 17, 2024, 10:44am; Reply: 556
After Andrew's comments this week and the fact the club posted a picture from the drone yesterday, I don't think its a massive leap to predict we might make an announcement today. What that's about (kit, investors, player) is another matter.
Posted by: Meza, May 17, 2024, 10:46am; Reply: 557
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Nothing official yet tho.
Posted by: Maringer, May 17, 2024, 10:58am; Reply: 558
I think he’s just another young kid, or at best a young adult with a pre-pubescent penís. We see it every summer without fail. Once they’ve been exposed as complete chancers they usually implode in some sort of sexist / racist mushroom cloud, and then finally pipe down when the old bill get involved.
Just have to let the process run its course.
Whatever happened to that nutter who called anyone who said anything negative about Efete a racist?
Posted by: mariner91, May 17, 2024, 11:07am; Reply: 560
as mentioned... we was never in for Kelsey Mooney.
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He looks a donut again now doesn't he that lad , busted flush come's to mind, but more like a toilet that didn't flush in the first place with DaveOlly .
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 17, 2024, 12:12pm; Reply: 564
Jack Diamond is a name i've been given, just been released by Sunderland. Imagine he'll have a lot of interest at this level, we was in for him last summer and in January. Had his best success at this level.. not done but are in talks.
Posted by: Alan Buckley, May 17, 2024, 12:15pm; Reply: 565
He is consistent when he’s not getting info off other people I’ll give him that 😂
Posted by: Hagrid, May 17, 2024, 12:20pm; Reply: 566
Jack Diamond is a name i've been given, just been released by Sunderland. Imagine he'll have a lot of interest at this level, we was in for him last summer and in January. Had his best success at this level.. not done but are in talks.
He looked excellent for Harrogate a couple of years back (scored about 15 goals from the wing). Had some personal problems (a rape case that he was subsequently cleared of), but a very exciting player in terms of style. Has missed a bit of football for the aforementioned reason, but should be approaching his peak at 24 years of age.
Would be happy with this one, personally.
Edit: was also on loan at Lincoln when Hutchinson was there’s presumably.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 17, 2024, 12:22pm; Reply: 568
Dan Kemp also released by Franchise... a lot of talent out wide available.
Posted by: Poojah, May 17, 2024, 12:26pm; Reply: 569
Dan Kemp also released by Franchise... a lot of talent out wide available.
Never keen on an ex-BFS link but since he appears to have been intentionally shít whenever he’s played for them I might be prepared to make an exception. That being said, he’ll end up somewhere like Bradford. Too much of an arms race for us to get involved, I’d imagine.
Posted by: jimgtfc, May 17, 2024, 12:28pm; Reply: 570
Dan Kemp also released by Franchise... a lot of talent out wide available.
Has he got a Vinnie Jones tattoo or something? Seems a decent player at L2 but MK Dons don’t seem to rate him at all.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 17, 2024, 12:30pm; Reply: 572
Diamond would be an outstanding signing. Take that nightmare year out of his career and it's an ongoing upward trajectory.
One of Harrogate's best players, if not the best, in their promotion to the league. Another good year in League Two with them, 13 goals. Then a very good loan spell at Lincoln until it was terminated following his charge. Again have to stress that he was found innocent of those charges, in fact it took the jury just seven minutes to come to that conclusion.
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 17, 2024, 12:37pm; Reply: 573
Kemp's release is utterly bizarre really. Quality for a shite Hartlepool side last season yet loaned straight back out, he and Jake Young going back to their parent clubs just destroyed Swindon's season this year.
Like Poojah I think he'll have a lot of big hitters after him.
Also notice that MK have released Ethan Robson. I thought he was very tidy and efficient in that late Jolley era side, one of the few bright sparks in that awful autumn/early winter.
Posted by: mariner91, May 17, 2024, 12:39pm; Reply: 574
He is consistent when he’s not getting info off other people I’ll give him that 😂
I'm very pleased we've not signed Mooney. I watched Boston a couple of times towards the end of the season and he was nothing special even at that level. Huge leap from NLN to L2. Having said that he's a Mooney so he'll definitely fooking score past us.
Posted by: mariner91, May 17, 2024, 12:41pm; Reply: 575
Kemp's release is utterly bizarre really. Quality for a shite Hartlepool side last season yet loaned straight back out, he and Jake Young going back to their parent clubs just destroyed Swindon's season this year.
Like Poojah I think he'll have a lot of big hitters after him.
Also notice that MK have released Ethan Robson. I thought he was very tidy and efficient in that late Jolley era side, one of the few bright sparks in that awful autumn/early winter.
I'd be very happy to see Kemp, Diamond or Robson rock up here. They're all better than what we have currently.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, May 17, 2024, 1:29pm; Reply: 576
Robson was certainly decent when on loan and really surprised his career has not moved on and he hasn’t contributed more goals despite a decent a move to Blackpool. He’s 27 now and has a lot more experience but hard to judge how good a signing he would be.
Guess Ben Davies might have played alongside him and I would expect he would be an improvement on what we have but personally not expecting his return.
Posted by: Saudimariner, May 17, 2024, 1:52pm; Reply: 577
Jack Diamond is a name i've been given, just been released by Sunderland. Imagine he'll have a lot of interest at this level, we was in for him last summer and in January. Had his best success at this level.. not done but are in talks.
Along with Géza Dávid Turi , we would have a Diamond Geza in the team!
Posted by: Nutsy, May 17, 2024, 2:05pm; Reply: 578
Vernam, Diamon, Robson, Kemp and Thompson with Rose is certainly mouth watering.
Doubt we will sign those three; albeit Kemp has certain McAtee vibes about him.
No doubt the data driven approach will cough up players I’ve never heard of (Geza and that young lad that twitter account says we’ve signed..)
Posted by: Mappers, May 17, 2024, 2:25pm; Reply: 579
When was our first signing from outside of the club last summer , out of interest ?
Posted by: diehardmariner, May 17, 2024, 2:29pm; Reply: 580
8th June, both Rose and Mullarkey on the same day.
When was our first signing from outside of the club last summer , out of interest ?
Mullarkey & Rose on the 14th June. At least that's when they were announced.
Posted by: Mappers, May 17, 2024, 3:10pm; Reply: 584
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Big signing for Bradford
Posted by: Poojah, May 17, 2024, 3:14pm; Reply: 585
Good player Sarcevic, but Bradford seem to find new and interesting ways to make a hash of their season every year. They made some impressive signings last summer but were still bobbins for two-thirds of the season.
I don’t think Graham Alexander is the man for them either.
Posted by: Son of Cod, May 17, 2024, 5:17pm; Reply: 586
Good player Sarcevic, but Bradford seem to find new and interesting ways to make a hash of their season every year. They made some impressive signings last summer but were still bobbins for two-thirds of the season.
I don’t think Graham Alexander is the man for them either.
Budget upped significantly this season by all accounts. Agree they always find new and inventive ways to bodge it up but I reckon they'll be a force this season. They should be at this level on those gates too.
Posted by: Poojah, May 17, 2024, 5:48pm; Reply: 587
Budget upped significantly this season by all accounts. Agree they always find new and inventive ways to bodge it up but I reckon they'll be a force this season. They should be at this level on those gates too.
The point is, you could have written that in any of the past 5 or 6 summers (I wrote something very similar last year myself), and yet they just don’t go up. They’re a funny old club.
Posted by: ska face, May 17, 2024, 6:09pm; Reply: 588
Imagine that idiot Sparks, their CEO, is shítting himself after a bad season last time out. When they played us there were protests against him & the ownership and it’s only a good late run that’s saved him and/or the manager.
Posted by: Mappers, May 17, 2024, 6:32pm; Reply: 589
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Last one from me ,from that donut lol
I'm sure I read that earlier somewhere ....
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, May 17, 2024, 6:38pm; Reply: 590
Jack Diamond is a name i've been given, just been released by Sunderland. Imagine he'll have a lot of interest at this level, we was in for him last summer and in January. Had his best success at this level.. not done but are in talks.
You did ;D
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 17, 2024, 6:45pm; Reply: 591
I've just been blocked for asking where he got the info from ;D
Ive just had an idea. How about all of us ask banal questions about his crap tweets, and then he can block every single one of us, so nobody ever sees his attention grabbing posts again.
Sounds like a plan
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, May 17, 2024, 7:49pm; Reply: 595
Ban the only people who might be interested in your content, guys a genius.
Posted by: Chrisblor, May 17, 2024, 7:51pm; Reply: 596
Ive just had an idea. How about all of us ask banal questions about his crap tweets, and then he can block every single one of us, so nobody ever sees his attention grabbing posts again.
Sounds like a plan
Love it buddy 🤣🤣🤣✅💯👍
Posted by: Civvy at last, May 17, 2024, 7:52pm; Reply: 597
Ive just had an idea. How about all of us ask banal questions about his crap tweets, and then he can block every single one of us, so nobody ever sees his attention grabbing posts again.
Sounds like a plan
The best plan is to totally ignore the prat.. With sad people like him, any attention is good attention. Don’t respond to his tweets. Don’t even acknowledge them. And don’t put antything on the fishy about him.. This pr1ck loves it !!
Posted by: Davec, May 17, 2024, 8:33pm; Reply: 598
A carlisle supporting mate I have has heard that Jack Diamond has agreed a 2 year deal with them, they had him on loan last season
Posted by: forza ivano, May 17, 2024, 9:08pm; Reply: 599
A carlisle supporting mate I have has heard that Jack Diamond has agreed a 2 year deal with them, they had him on loan last season
That cant be true because Oly Knob or what ever his name is, clearly stated that he was coming here, and we all know how good his predictions are.......
..........then again.......
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 17, 2024, 9:42pm; Reply: 602
Jack Muldoon...you heard it here first, 1 year deal with an option for a 2nd year. His neighbour is a good friend btw
Posted by: dicko995, May 17, 2024, 9:51pm; Reply: 603
If its the Jack Muldoon from Harrogate, hes been diagnosed with type one diabetes, :(
Posted by: mariner91, May 17, 2024, 10:01pm; Reply: 604
If its the Jack Muldoon from Harrogate, hes been diagnosed with type one diabetes, :(
…23 years ago.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 17, 2024, 11:52pm; Reply: 609
Ah…. I genuinely miss this thread during the season… 😂
Posted by: GtfcGarner, May 18, 2024, 8:25am; Reply: 610
Just seen that Harry has been doing his UEFA ‘B’ badge. Alongside some notable faces from the past: Paddy McLaughlin, Michael Coulson and Chesterfield’s Ollie Banks.. No transfer news as such just maybe a nod to the future for our Harry.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, May 18, 2024, 8:56am; Reply: 611
Just seen that Harry has been doing his UEFA ‘B’ badge. Alongside some notable faces from the past: Paddy McLaughlin, Michael Coulson and Chesterfield’s Ollie Banks.. No transfer news as such just maybe a nod to the future for our Harry.
Ryan Bennett is on that picture too.
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, May 18, 2024, 10:43am; Reply: 612
Just seen that Harry has been doing his UEFA ‘B’ badge. Alongside some notable faces from the past: Paddy McLaughlin, Michael Coulson and Chesterfield’s Ollie Banks.. No transfer news as such just maybe a nod to the future for our Harry.
Actually, if he stayed and did some coaching with the youth that would be great for the youngsters - being coached by someone who’d come through the GTFC academy to EFL level.
Posted by: Sandford1981, May 18, 2024, 11:28am; Reply: 613
Actually, if he stayed and did some coaching with the youth that would be great for the youngsters - being coached by someone who’d come through the GTFC academy to EFL level.
You would then have a thread questioning Harry’s coaching ability and proclaiming ‘He's only a coach because he’s local!’ What larks!
Posted by: SheepGTFC, May 18, 2024, 11:32am; Reply: 614
Any news on those offered new deals?
Posted by: HertsGTFC, May 18, 2024, 12:08pm; Reply: 615
Actually, if he stayed and did some coaching with the youth that would be great for the youngsters - being coached by someone who’d come through the GTFC academy to EFL level.
I suspect he’ll need to as you can’t get the qualification by just coaching whilst on the course.
Posted by: forza ivano, May 18, 2024, 12:33pm; Reply: 616
That doesn't quite back up the rumour that the players and staff absolutely hate Artell.
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
Posted by: Chrisblor, May 18, 2024, 1:10pm; Reply: 619
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
lmao
Posted by: Poojah, May 18, 2024, 1:16pm; Reply: 620
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
Ooh, can you answer me this one before you go? Why is it that everyone* who apparently has close enough association with high ranking club officials to have so-called “insider information” has the personality flaw known in medical circles as “being a complete bell end”? It’s an odd phenomenon.
*not Surrey97
Posted by: mariner2000, May 18, 2024, 1:19pm; Reply: 621
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
not a hypocrite at all!!
Posted by: gtfc_chris, May 18, 2024, 1:20pm; Reply: 622
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
That’s the thing with rumours though, they’re not always based on fact, which makes them open to discussion, derision or excitement. Generally speaking if the rumour is favourable we get excited, if it’s negative then we try to find ways not to believe it.
An hour ‘clear the air’ talks can be completely seperate from a dislike of Artell of a person. I’ve worked with a number of people who I don’t like their management styles or decisions but they as people are sound. Given they’re my boss I’ve tended not to argue on the daily as that wouldn’t help the environment, but if it got so bad (which has been the case before) then you speak up and say things aren’t right and you discuss.
Unless a player categorically comes out and tells their version of events/personal opinion then that conversation - which we know is fact - could be based on Artell asking the question, the players raising their concerns professionally or a slagging in match whereby players vented their dislike. My choice is to believe the middle until someone who was in the room tells me otherwise.
Posted by: chaos33, May 18, 2024, 1:38pm; Reply: 623
Actually, if he stayed and did some coaching with the youth that would be great for the youngsters - being coached by someone who’d come through the GTFC academy to EFL level.
Well it would if it meant that any of our academy players were ever good enough to be a first team regular. A rarity at GTFC and something that needs to change.
Posted by: Son of Cod, May 18, 2024, 1:53pm; Reply: 624
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday.
I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
Pretty sure you've said this before as well.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, May 18, 2024, 1:55pm; Reply: 625
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
I have no remit and I'm not naïve to the fact that there was probably more to the "clear the air talks" than was ever let on. However, hate is a very strong word, and at the moment your comment that the players and staff absolutely hate him isn't bearing fruit.
In terms of those players released, there wasn't any surprises and everyone was in broad agreement that those players should have been released. If all of the players offered a new deal have accepted it as rumoured, then that doesn't fit with the suggestion that players and staff hate Artell either.
At the moment, we haven't been told that any players have put in a transfer request or been available for transfer, but it wouldn't be surprising to see Pyke and Wilson depart.
To my knowledge, no staff that work with Artell on a daily basis have left for pastures new either. If Artell was such a hated person, would Jason and Andrew have kept him on?
So I'm sorry for questioning this point you made, but what I see doesn't fit with what you said.
Posted by: chaos33, May 18, 2024, 2:06pm; Reply: 626
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
Clear the air talks aren’t the same as saying the players hate the manager. I can’t recall anything you’ve got right or wrong, but you’re obviously something of an attention seeking type who’s now playing the victim and threatening to take his ball home. Off you go then. See you in a day or so, you melt.
Posted by: Mikey_345, May 18, 2024, 2:09pm; Reply: 627
I have no remit and I'm not naïve to the fact that there was probably more to the "clear the air talks" than was ever let on. However, hate is a very strong word, and at the moment your comment that the players and staff absolutely hate isn't bearing fruit.
In terms of those players released, there wasn't any surprises and everyone was in broad agreement that those players should have been released. If all of the players offered a new deal have accepted it as rumoured, then that doesn't fit with the suggestion that players and staff hate Artell either.
At the moment, we haven't been told that any players have put in a transfer request or been available for transfer, but it wouldn't be surprising to see Pyke and Wilson depart.
To my knowledge, no staff that work with Artell on a daily basis have left for pastures new either. If Artell was such a hated person, would Jason and Andrew have kept him on?
So I'm sorry for questioning this point you made, but what I see doesn't fit with what you said.
I’m very inclined to take DA at his word when he says he’s had a massive learning curve since coming in and maybe gave to much info/expected to much when he first arrived.
Hes only ever managed at one other club, albeit very successfully. He’s of course still learning and this is his first venture into a new club as a manager. One thing I’d say that doesn’t really fit the “everyone hates him narrative” is it is quite clear the bloke doesn’t have a massive ego as he was quite prepared to accept the above and be willing to change. Plus the willingness to self reflect and talk about that openly. Hes grown on me hugely since that Donny game.
After that ‘clear the air’ I haven’t seen a single sign that players hate him, as that would be quite easy to spot - they’ve dug in and preformed for him from what I’ve seen.
Posted by: ska face, May 18, 2024, 2:18pm; Reply: 628
As chief adjudicator I’m inclined to say Buckley is a top-end performer in the rumour game.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, May 18, 2024, 3:58pm; Reply: 629
Ive just found a massive dummy on the floor. Does it belong to anyone on here?
Posted by: GollyGTFC, May 18, 2024, 4:57pm; Reply: 630
I don’t understand all the love for Artell and I fully believe those who say that he’s generally unpopular.. He’s also been sh!te. 7 wins, 9 draws and 12 defeats from 28 in all competition is rubbish. Even post Doncaster he only won 5 out of 15- i.e. nothing to get excited about. I suppose he got us out of a relegation battle that he got us into in the first place.
I don’t think any other club in the EFL would have kept faith with him.
I think we’re wasting our time with him.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 18, 2024, 5:02pm; Reply: 631
I don’t understand all the love for Artell and I fully believe those who say that he’s generally unpopular.. He’s also been sh!te. 7 wins, 9 draws and 12 defeats from 28 in all competition is rubbish. Even post Doncaster he only won 5 out of 15- i.e. nothing to get excited about. I suppose he got us out of a relegation battle that he got us into in the first place.
I don’t think any other club in the EFL would have kept faith with him.
I think we’re wasting our time with him.
Only manage we've had that's gained automatic promotion out of league 2 in 30 years, but he's excrement, yeal, ok....give it a rest Golly, And, he did not get into that relegation battle, Hursts ability to blow a war chest on shite got us there, it was Artells signings that saved us!!..
I don’t understand all the love for Artell and I fully believe those who say that he’s generally unpopular.. He’s also been sh!te. 7 wins, 9 draws and 12 defeats from 28 in all competition is rubbish. Even post Doncaster he only won 5 out of 15- i.e. nothing to get excited about. I suppose he got us out of a relegation battle that he got us into in the first place.
I don’t think any other club in the EFL would have kept faith with him.
I think we’re wasting our time with him.
Like everything else you need a massive dose of context to even try to assess any given situation.
We were terrible under Hurst, marginally better under the caretakers but the team he inherited was just not very good.
The data on managers is just as daft as data on players; a thousand different scenarios mean they have good or bad win ratios so the main requirement is to get a manager who agrees with and matches the clubs ethos, and has a way of playing that the club can model itself on. That's what we've done and once he has players who fit the game model then who knows what might be achieved?
If it doesn't work we will have to try another manager!
Posted by: SheepGTFC, May 18, 2024, 5:15pm; Reply: 633
Can't believe I managed to kill Alan Buckley by asking if anyone had heard anything about players signing new deals. ;D
Posted by: TwoLeftFeet, May 18, 2024, 5:19pm; Reply: 634
I was told the opposite by a family member of one of the players that they liked Artell generally tho that was said to me before the Donny game.. like most clubs the players playing are usually happy than those who aren't..
Posted by: GollyGTFC, May 18, 2024, 5:44pm; Reply: 635
Only manage we've had that's gained automatic promotion out of league 2 in 30 years, but he's excrement, yeal, ok....give it a rest Golly, And, he did not get into that relegation battle, Hursts ability to blow a war chest on shite got us there, it was Artells signings that saved us!!..
Don't make up statistics. Brian Laws (1994-96), Alan Buckley (2006-08 ) and Mike Newell (2008-09) have managed us in the last 30 years and have achieved a tier 4 promotion.
And anyhow, I couldn't care less what he did at Crewe. I care about what he's done here. And he's done terribly. 7 wins out of 28. The worst run of home results in the entire history of the club.
And which players signed by Artell (even though he is not in charge of recruitment) are you talking about? Because 3 of the January signings were ones we attempted to sign in the summer.
Posted by: Gilbertswand, May 18, 2024, 5:45pm; Reply: 636
I don’t understand all the love for Artell and I fully believe those who say that he’s generally unpopular.. He’s also been sh!te. 7 wins, 9 draws and 12 defeats from 28 in all competition is rubbish. Even post Doncaster he only won 5 out of 15- i.e. nothing to get excited about. I suppose he got us out of a relegation battle that he got us into in the first place.
I don’t think any other club in the EFL would have kept faith with him.
I think we’re wasting our time with him.
I think he deserves a chance.
He was recruited to play the clubs game model by the owners...He came in and tried to implement it using the players that Hurst recruited. The players couldn't do it and results and data reflected this. He didnt get it right and realised things needed to change, he recruited new players and went back to basics by adapting our tactics to ensure that we didn't get relegated. This is the first time he has taken over a club and i am sure he will have learn't a lot about delivering change in an organisation.
He had the balls to recognise there was an issue, made changes and put things right...Thompson and Doug The Arm are decent signings.
He deserves the chance to build a team and deliver what he was brought in for..
Posted by: mariner91, May 18, 2024, 5:51pm; Reply: 637
I don’t understand all the love for Artell and I fully believe those who say that he’s generally unpopular.. He’s also been sh!te. 7 wins, 9 draws and 12 defeats from 28 in all competition is rubbish. Even post Doncaster he only won 5 out of 15- i.e. nothing to get excited about. I suppose he got us out of a relegation battle that he got us into in the first place.
I don’t think any other club in the EFL would have kept faith with him.
I think we’re wasting our time with him.
Don’t make up statistics. He inherited a team that was four points ahead of the relegation zone. He finished 7 points ahead of the relegation zone. Let’s not rewrite history and pretend that we weren’t firmly in a relegation fight after a run of 2 wins in 13 league games, one of which was the home game against Barrow which must have been the jammiest win I’ve ever seen us get.
There’s still big question marks over Artell but he was willing to abandon his initial plan and made a new system that kept us up reasonably comfortably with one of the worst squads we’ve ever had. We’ll see how he does but I don’t think we’ll be worse than last season.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, May 18, 2024, 6:04pm; Reply: 638
Don't make up statistics. Brian Laws (1994-96), Alan Buckley (2006-08 ) and Mike Newell (2008-09) have managed us in the last 30 years and have achieved a tier 4 promotion.
And anyhow, I couldn't care less what he did at Crewe. I care about what he's done here. And he's done terribly. 7 wins out of 28. The worst run of home results in the entire history of the club.
And which players signed by Artell (even though he is not in charge of recruitment) are you talking about? Because 3 of the January signings were ones we attempted to sign in the summer.
Errmmm.....Artell has the final say on who we recruit, so whether you like it or not, he made the decision to sign Thompson, Tharme, Hume, he also made the decision to change the style of play to suit the situation, something the previous incumbent never did!!..
Posted by: cannylad65, May 18, 2024, 6:09pm; Reply: 639
'One of the worst squads we've ever had'.
And the majority are with us for next season.
I am certainly not optimistic.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, May 18, 2024, 6:33pm; Reply: 640
I'm not overly impressed with him so far. But I hope he's a massive success.
Few people a bit precious on here. Gimme the rumours
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, May 18, 2024, 6:43pm; Reply: 641
Fu(k me. Some of the comments on here are, at best, snide.
I tell you what, I’ll put a rumour up, we’re in for Fritz von wollawollabingbong from go ahead eagles. Senegalese under 21 international kabadi prospect that’s also got the biggest collection of ordinance survey maps south of the Sahara.
Posted by: supertown, May 18, 2024, 6:43pm; Reply: 642
I’ll give you the satisfaction of a bite you boring bottom while I still wait for son of cod to tell me one thing I’ve got wrong after piping up yesterday. As I’ve said previously “clear the air talks” for over a hour in the dressing room after the Doncaster game doesn’t happen because they’ve just lost 5-1 but I know that doesn’t fit your remit. Let’s start a official summer transfer rumour thread on a Grimsby town forum and then lambast anyone who may have heard any rumours/info and post it on here because they don’t believe them and love nothing more than to moan (which a lot of you are absolutely brilliant at may I add) I shall be keeping my info to myself from now on and this thread should be closed because it offends the little whiners so much and we should all just find out from teletext like the good all days. AB out ✌🏽
That’s a bit much. I don’t know how close you are to a player to get the information that everyone hates Artell, but it was a huge accusation to make and didn’t help your credibility as it cannot be proven/disproved, whereas a transfer rumour obviously can .
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, May 18, 2024, 7:21pm; Reply: 643
Fu(k me. Some of the comments on here are, at best, snide.
I tell you what, I’ll put a rumour up, we’re in for Fritz von wollawollabingbong from go ahead eagles. Senegalese under 21 international kabadi prospect that’s also got the biggest collection of ordinance survey maps south of the Sahara.
Now that would be a helluva signing. Only because want a shirt with his name on the back, which would need to utilise the sleeves too!
Oh, and i need to borrow a couple of OS maps too
Posted by: acko338, May 18, 2024, 7:51pm; Reply: 644
Fritz's shirt sales would increase annual profits 4 fold !!
30 minutes extra time every game due to ref running out of inknm to book him !!
Posted by: marinerjase, May 18, 2024, 7:54pm; Reply: 645
I get that people like to be ‘first’ in terms of ‘knowing’stuff.. even if I don’t get the mentality of why .. but when you post stuff that comes across as ‘immature’ when folk don’t/won’t dance to your tune - it makes it even more cringeworthy.
